I would like to model a New York Central PT2 tender. It was unique to a single Hudson that ran on the Big 4. The plan is to use a PT4 tender as a starting point. I didn’t think anyone ever made a PT2 but some sources say possibly Max Gray or other early brass builders may have. Anyone know for sure if someone may have built one or better yet actually have this model. Am hoping to get a photo of the water deck to determine where the hatches should be placed.
Pete
NYC PT2 Tender
Re: NYC PT2 Tender
I was able to find out what some were referring to regarding a Max Gray PT2 Tender. They called this tender a PT2 but its not. Thats more like a PT1 tender.
https://www.brasstrains.com/Classic/Pro ... ede-Tender
A PT2 tender was used only with this engine. Clearly different than Max Gray’s version.
https://nycshs.omeka.net/items/show/88317
Looks like the search continues.
Pete
https://www.brasstrains.com/Classic/Pro ... ede-Tender
A PT2 tender was used only with this engine. Clearly different than Max Gray’s version.
https://nycshs.omeka.net/items/show/88317
Looks like the search continues.
Pete
Re: NYC PT2 Tender
Pete:
You'll have to build/bash a PT2 if you really want one.
The PT2 had a far higher water capacity than the rest of the breed, the slope-sheet much further forward, and a far smaller coal bunker as a result. The PT2 was not equipped for scooping water. It rides on the same frame as the PT1, so you have that as the starting point.
The rest of what you read on forums like OGR is bollocks and is confusing you. This tank was built for water capacity whilst the rest of the PTs were built for coal capacity.
Max did a quasi-PT1, or more accurately a confused one. PT-1s were originally built without an air header/expansion chamber behind the slopesheet and no overflow pipes on the frame. They were retrofitted with both when uprated to match the PT4/PT5. These were built with the expansion system and thus equipped could take water from a pan at 70mph. Without, the cistern on the PT1 was known to split from the surge pressure if water was scooped at too high a speed. There are test photos to that effect. Max put the pipes on the frame but no header on the rear deck; can't have one without the other.
Your best bet is to use any of the PT frames and running gear, remove any overflow pipes and splash shields, then bash or build the superstructure from there.
You'll have to build/bash a PT2 if you really want one.
The PT2 had a far higher water capacity than the rest of the breed, the slope-sheet much further forward, and a far smaller coal bunker as a result. The PT2 was not equipped for scooping water. It rides on the same frame as the PT1, so you have that as the starting point.
The rest of what you read on forums like OGR is bollocks and is confusing you. This tank was built for water capacity whilst the rest of the PTs were built for coal capacity.
Max did a quasi-PT1, or more accurately a confused one. PT-1s were originally built without an air header/expansion chamber behind the slopesheet and no overflow pipes on the frame. They were retrofitted with both when uprated to match the PT4/PT5. These were built with the expansion system and thus equipped could take water from a pan at 70mph. Without, the cistern on the PT1 was known to split from the surge pressure if water was scooped at too high a speed. There are test photos to that effect. Max put the pipes on the frame but no header on the rear deck; can't have one without the other.
Your best bet is to use any of the PT frames and running gear, remove any overflow pipes and splash shields, then bash or build the superstructure from there.
Re: NYC PT2 Tender
Sarge, I have an MTH PT tender. I have a pretty good idea what I have to do machining off the top but just haven’t found any photos of the deck on the PT2. I am assuming the water hatch and vents are not in the same place as even a PT1 but may just have to punt.
Besides the docs at the NYCHS I have Know thy Hudsons and a number of other books but I suppose since the PT2 was one of a kind there are few photos.
The tender on the first page behind the Dreyfuss appears to be what Max Gray modeled.
https://nycshs.org/wp-content/uploads/2 ... enders.pdf
Pete
Besides the docs at the NYCHS I have Know thy Hudsons and a number of other books but I suppose since the PT2 was one of a kind there are few photos.
The tender on the first page behind the Dreyfuss appears to be what Max Gray modeled.
https://nycshs.org/wp-content/uploads/2 ... enders.pdf
Pete
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