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Re: Has President Biden

Postby HONDO74 » Mon Jun 13, 2022 3:08 pm

Neil wrote:"Were they too stupid to understand that they could get pregnant"

Well, Yale and Harvard educated judges don't seem to understand that a fertilized ovum isn't a baby, .


I wonder how come those same judges won't allow a video to be shown of what an abortion looks like.?

And even if roe vs wade is overturned abortions it will still be legal. It goes back to the states to decide. So New York can decide to make it legal along with all the rest of the liberal states.

Unintended pregnancy remains most common among poor women, women of color and women without a high school education. Women living in poverty have a rate of unintended pregnancy five times higher than those with middle or high incomes. Black women are twice as likely to have an unintended pregnancy as white women.

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Re: Has President Biden

Postby HONDO74 » Mon Jun 13, 2022 3:16 pm

robert. wrote:The guy running for governor of PA. wont allow it even in the case of rape. I think that statement is the nail in his coffin. Others say that is what will get him elected. Imagine carrying the child of somebody that violated you? I cant believe the guy thinks that way. Life would be a lot simpler if we all just did better


There you go Robert, you could run on the pro choice ticket for gov in PA and win :wink: :wink:

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Re: Has President Biden

Postby robert. » Mon Jun 13, 2022 5:49 pm

i don't have the money to run. As of April the democrat Shaprio had raised 18 million and he was running unopposed in the primary I have not raised $18.00 I bought 2 printer cartridges 2 clipboards and a tank of gas :lol:
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Re: Has President Biden

Postby robert. » Mon Jun 13, 2022 5:54 pm

You can look into Martin's bread. They gave money to the pro life guy. No people are boycotting their bread. Over the holiday stores sold almost none of their product. Then the word hit the republicans and the stores sold out. Funny how cancel culture works.
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Re: Has President Biden

Postby robert. » Mon Jun 13, 2022 6:10 pm

I tell people. I would like to see a 4-5 month cutoff on abortion. I think 7,8,9 months is to late to do it. I'd also like to see it not repetitively used as birth control. Legal safe and rare. Plus i don't want to be the person telling a women what to do. I do think the high court needs to find out a that leak happened. Whom ever leaked it should be kicked off the court, removed from their clerk job and tried for treason. Ok treason may be a little rough. Never work again in the field of law. It's possible that a judge almost died due to that leak. I can only imagine the noise if someone showed up at RBG's house.
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Re: Has President Biden

Postby v8vega » Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:30 am

HONDO74 wrote:
Neil wrote:Rubbish. Offering thoughts and prayers to our Supreme Court fascists. :mrgreen:


So it's okay with you to assassinate Supreme Court judges but only the ones you don't like

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


The main stream media which is the same as the Democrat party didn't report the assanation attempt on Kavanoch at all because it doesn't fit their narative.

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Re: Has President Biden

Postby HONDO74 » Tue Jun 14, 2022 11:03 am

v8vega wrote:
HONDO74 wrote:
Neil wrote:Rubbish. Offering thoughts and prayers to our Supreme Court fascists. :mrgreen:


So it's okay with you to assassinate Supreme Court judges but only the ones you don't like

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


The main stream media which is the same as the Democrat party didn't report the assanation attempt on Kavanoch at all because it doesn't fit their narative.


That's because the guy is not a white supremacist. He is just a left wing lunatic democrat like the rest of the lame stream media :wink: :wink: :wink:

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Re: Has President Biden

Postby HONDO74 » Tue Jun 14, 2022 11:21 am

robert. wrote:I tell people. I would like to see a 4-5 month cutoff on abortion. I think 7,8,9 months is to late to do it. I'd also like to see it not repetitively used as birth control. Legal safe and rare. Plus i don't want to be the person telling a women what to do.


I'm with you on this Robert. While I"m neither for or against abortion. If they are going to do it then do it at the beginning. Don't do it just before the baby is born.

The thing that burns me is women saying they want control of there bodies. They have total control. If they want to run around screwing their brains out they should be more responsible about. If they are going to be sexually active there are many ways to prevent a pregnancy. They don't happen by accident

Planned parenthood will provide them with what they need.

Medical abortion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_abortion

Medical abortion should not be confused with emergency contraception, which typically involves drugs (such as Levonorgestrel or "Plan B") taken soon after intercourse to prevent a pregnancy from beginning.

How Much Does an Abortion Cost?
https://www.compasscare.info/health-inf ... ion-costs/


Typical Abortion Costs in Rochester and Buffalo, NY
Cost of Abortion Pill

Medication Abortion / Abortion Pill with insurance (within 10 weeks gestation) : $350-$650
Medical Abortion / Abortion Pill without insurance: up to $10002
Abortion Pill online: not available legally3 in the US
Abortion Pill at CVS: not available by prescription

Cost of Surgical Abortion

Suction Aspiration / Vacuum Abortion (6-12 weeks gestation): $600-$1000
Dilation and Curettage (13-16 weeks gestation): $850-$1600
Dilation and Evacuation (17-21 weeks gestation): $1500-$2100

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Re: Has President Biden

Postby Neil » Tue Jun 14, 2022 11:36 am

The NY Times most definitely reported the threats to Kavanaugh as did CNN and BBC. The guy was deranged and got nowhere near an assassination attempt, unlike the similarly deranged monsters in Buffalo and Uvalde who had access to weapons of mass murder Thanks to our friends in the Republican Party, the right wing lunatic world and Fox News.
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Re: Has President Biden

Postby robert. » Tue Jun 14, 2022 11:38 am

How much does an unwanted child cost?
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Re: Has President Biden

Postby HONDO74 » Tue Jun 14, 2022 1:12 pm

robert. wrote:How much does an unwanted child cost?


That's a good question Robert. My wife and I adopted 2 unwanted children. Do you want me to try and place a value on them.

They both seem to be happy that their 16 year old mothers didn't abort them. We got each one when they were 10 weeks old.

This was in California and the adoption fee on each one at that time was $500 dollars and As I recall the wait time after approval was 6 months. After a year those wait times went up to 2 years there was such a demand for babies. Older children can take a while to place. Babies don't know they have been rejected by there mother but older children know it. When the adoption agency has a prospective parents for an older child they take the child to a park where the can be observed at play from a distance. This way if these people decide to not take this child the child doesn't know they have been rejected again.

We started a 3rd adoption but bailed out because I insisted on having a bedroom for each child and there was no way possible to add on to our house because on how it was located on the lot and to trade up to a bigger house was beyond our means at the time.

But I did sign up for and became a big brother for another child. That lasted for about a year. Unfortunately the mother became very demanding for my time. I told the agency that the mother wants a husband for her child and not a big brother. I can't be a father for her child. I"M starting to neglect my own family. And NO there was nothing going on between me and this women. She was way over weight probably why she couldn't attract a man

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Re: Has President Biden

Postby Neil » Tue Jun 14, 2022 1:21 pm

No one is arguing in favor of enforced abortion for "unwanted children." Some (the majority) are arguing that religious and political fanatics (much of the Republican minority party) should not enforce their barbaric beliefs on all women. Women who wish to carry a child to term and put it up for adoption are obviously welcomed by many of the 10-15% of couples who are infertile. However, these couples disproportionately want white, healthy babies. Most of the unwanted children who are born involuntarily to mothers where all abortions are banned are not white healthy babies. This is the moral crux of the matter. The lunatic fringe who want to force women who become pregnant to carry children to term are barbarians who value the life of an unimplanted fertilized ovum (they oppose IUDs and other preventive measures) rather than the life of the mother and her needs and her family's needs. This is slavery pure and simple. Our country should tolerate religious fanatics, but not allow this tiny minority to dictate policy for the sane and compassionate majority.
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Re: Has President Biden

Postby E7 » Tue Jun 14, 2022 4:20 pm

HONDO74 wrote:But I did sign up for and became a big brother for another child. That lasted for about a year. Unfortunately the mother became very demanding for my time. I told the agency that the mother wants a husband for her child and not a big brother. I can't be a father for her child. I"M starting to neglect my own family. And NO there was nothing going on between me and this women. She was way over weight probably why she couldn't attract a man


Hondo, Bad choice of words.....I think she wanted a FATHER for her child, and maybe a husband for herself! :wink:

That said, your intentions were admirable!

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Re: Has President Biden

Postby robert. » Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:16 pm

HONDO74 wrote:
robert. wrote:How much does an unwanted child cost?


That's a good question Robert. My wife and I adopted 2 unwanted children. Do you want me to try and place a value on them.

They both seem to be happy that their 16 year old mothers didn't abort them. We got each one when they were 10 weeks old.

This was in California and the adoption fee on each one at that time was $500 dollars and As I recall the wait time after approval was 6 months. After a year those wait times went up to 2 years there was such a demand for babies. Older children can take a while to place. Babies don't know they have been rejected by there mother but older children know it. When the adoption agency has a prospective parents for an older child they take the child to a park where the can be observed at play from a distance. This way if these people decide to not take this child the child doesn't know they have been rejected again.

We started a 3rd adoption but bailed out because I insisted on having a bedroom for each child and there was no way possible to add on to our house because on how it was located on the lot and to trade up to a bigger house was beyond our means at the time.

But I did sign up for and became a big brother for another child. That lasted for about a year. Unfortunately the mother became very demanding for my time. I told the agency that the mother wants a husband for her child and not a big brother. I can't be a father for her child. I"M starting to neglect my own family. And NO there was nothing going on between me and this women. She was way over weight probably why she couldn't attract a man
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Re: Has President Biden

Postby robert. » Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:16 pm

HONDO74 wrote:
robert. wrote:How much does an unwanted child cost?


That's a good question Robert. My wife and I adopted 2 unwanted children. Do you want me to try and place a value on them.

They both seem to be happy that their 16 year old mothers didn't abort them. We got each one when they were 10 weeks old.

This was in California and the adoption fee on each one at that time was $500 dollars and As I recall the wait time after approval was 6 months. After a year those wait times went up to 2 years there was such a demand for babies. Older children can take a while to place. Babies don't know they have been rejected by there mother but older children know it. When the adoption agency has a prospective parents for an older child they take the child to a park where the can be observed at play from a distance. This way if these people decide to not take this child the child doesn't know they have been rejected again.

We started a 3rd adoption but bailed out because I insisted on having a bedroom for each child and there was no way possible to add on to our house because on how it was located on the lot and to trade up to a bigger house was beyond our means at the time.

But I did sign up for and became a big brother for another child. That lasted for about a year. Unfortunately the mother became very demanding for my time. I told the agency that the mother wants a husband for her child and not a big brother. I can't be a father for her child. I"M starting to neglect my own family. And NO there was nothing going on between me and this women. She was way over weight probably why she couldn't attract a man
those are wanted children. I talking about kids that the mother has then fails to be a mother. I would think a true mother could give her kids up to adoption. Let them have a better chance. My friends wife gave up twins when she was 19. Now they are back in her life 30 years later. She had some real hard times during their birthdays. Now they have a blended family. She speaks weekly with the couple that adopted them. How do you feel about same sex adoption? 2 dads or two moms. I think adoption is great. I have several customers that are same sex partners. Mostly 2 dads. As far as I can tell their kids appear real happy.
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