TrainZ, Roger's neighbors and I are going to decide the 2020 Presidential Election

[Neil]

" It's BLM ansd Antifa in the drivers seat now"

Seriously? The antifa don't really exist as an organized force, just some individuals and small groups of anarchist crazies in the main. BLM is primarily a movement for social justice, something we can all agree on . We all believe in the 14th and 15th amendments to the Constitution, right? BLM is a direct movement to finish the job of reconstruction that was interrupted by racists and segregationists who wanted to cling to power in the postwar South. No one in their right mind today supports those values, but there are individuals who still get upset when they see a person of color earning a good living or sitting in a position of political power. George Wallace is dead, but racism is not totally dead.

[gregj410]

but racism is not totally dead.

Not as long as people like you continue to remind the world that it’s all about race.

[HONDO74]

"
S BLM is a direct movement to finish the job of reconstruction that was interrupted by racists and segregationists who wanted to cling to power in the postwar South. No one in their right mind today supports those values, but there are individuals who still get upset when they see a person of color earning a good living or sitting in a position of political power. George Wallace is dead, but racism is not totally dead.

Ku Klux Klan members in United States politics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_K ... s_politics

Notice they are all democrats

George Wallace is dead, But the legend of Robert Byrd is still alive

It was the republicans in the 60s that helped Johnson get the civil rights bill passed. Not Biden and his crony KKK members that he bragged about recently getting along with them.

During the 70s the democrats figured out they could no longer be the party of the KKK so they tried to pass it off on the republicans. So if the south is racist it's because the democrats made it that way. They controlled it for many years.

Biden was the architect of the anti crime bill in the 90s the incarcerated thousands of young black men. Biden was a racist

[Neil]

"Biden was a racist"

Maybe so, but that was then. This is now. As far as my being the source of racism talk, try talking to some black or brown folks. The concept of DWB is not someone's imagination. There's raw data to support it. We've made progress, but there's a bit more to go.

Like I wrote, the Democrats have become the party of Lincoln and the Republicans have become the party of Trump. Take your pick. I did. History changes things. I don't care about Strom Thurmond. He's dead, as is the south of the Confederacy and their deeply misguided values. The cities in North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Texas and even Alabama all went for Biden, not Trump.

It's definitely not all about race. For racism to disappear, we need a couple of generations of white folks to pass into history I'd guess. Meanwhile, the issues of keeping people from being evicted, dealing with the pandemic and keeping people from starving are indeed more important issues than racism.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

For racism to disappear, we need a couple of generations of white folks to pass into history I'd guess.

If only it were that simple.

[gregj410]

Meanwhile, the issues of keeping people from being evicted, dealing with the pandemic and keeping people from starving are indeed more important issues than racism.

Are you sure Neil because you can’t stop talking about race? Maybe this lady can educate you and your party of Margaret Sanger, KKK and the like. Your laughable Neil, nobody takes you seriously.

https://youtu.be/g_a7dQXilCo

[HONDO74]

For racism to disappear, we need a couple of generations of white folks to pass into history I'd guess. Meanwhile, the issues of keeping people from being evicted, dealing with the pandemic and keeping people from starving are indeed more important issues than racism.

So in your opinion It's only whites that are racist Not blacks or Latinos.

Working aircraft in California I was the supervisor of a shop with 50 employees some of the worst problems I had was between the blacks and the Latinos. They hated each other. very verbal about calling each other names. these were not easy problems to solve and keep production going

It's still going on out there. The Latinos are displacing the blacks in the communities they have lived in for years. One of my best friends still lives there in Gardena. He is married to one of the nicest Mexican gals that you would ever want to meet. we call each other at least once a week so I get to here first hand whats going on.

[Neil]

"So in your opinion It's only whites that are racist Not blacks or Latinos."

Don't put words in my mouth. You're good at it, but I'm at least as good at spotting your sophistry .

I said that whites (being the majority group) with racist upbringing would need to die off (and the nation become more diverse as it will) as a precondition for racism becoming less oppressive. I didn't say it was going to disappear entirely or that other races weren't going to pick up where the white folk left off. Tribalism, which seems to be hard wired in some of us, will likely always exist and have to been beaten down when it rears its ugly head.

[Neil]

"Your laughable Neil, nobody takes you seriously."

Whereas you are an effing genius and everyone takes you very, very seriously. Remind me again some day in the future to care about your opinion about me .

I'm sure when people here want to understand scientific and medical issues you are the first name that comes to mind, not mine.

[v8vega]

That weak, feeble, senile old foo will never be my president and 70,000 others it's a stolen election.
Democrats always want us to come together and unite When They Win. Screw you.
It's night again and in the morning there will be a mysterious sudden jump in vote totals for that Communist.

[HONDO74]

I'm sure when people here want to understand scientific and medical issues you are the first name that comes to mind, not mine.

I highly doubt that it's your name that comes to mind Neil. Probably Rufus But not you.You don;t have any wheres near the credibility that Rufus has.

[E7]

Biden was a racist

Maybe so, but that was then. This is now.

So tell us when ol' Sleepy Joe made his transformation away from being a racist. Was it when he decided to run for Prez?

I don't care about Strom Thurmond. He's dead

But it was OK to rant on about FDR the other day! Makes you a bit of a hypocrite, doesn't it? We can reference one dead guy, but not another.

The cities in North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Texas and even Alabama all went for Biden, not Trump.

What were the voting percentages? If they were as close as the rest of the voting, it would indicate they are pretty well divided.

It's definitely not all about race. For racism to disappear, we need a couple of generations of white folks to pass into history I'd guess.

You say that it's not about race and in your very next sentence, you want a couple generations of white folks to disappear!

Meanwhile, the issues of keeping people from being evicted, dealing with the pandemic and keeping people from starving are indeed more important issues than racism.

All is not lost, I can agree with that....but I don't think those Socialist weasel Democrats will do any better.

[E7]

there are individuals who still get upset when they see a person of color earning a good living or sitting in a position of political power. George Wallace is dead, but racism is not totally dead.

ANYONE who can get there on their own smarts and ability, more power to them.

As for Wallace, why not just leave him dead.

[gregj410]

I'm sure when people here want to understand scientific and medical issues you are the first name that comes to mind, not mine.

Oh yes Dr Neil, when people want scientific and medical advice they can always consult you on the model train forum. I can see them lining up now. Please Neil, keep posting, not for your infinte medical wisdom but for the pure entertainment value alone.

[Neil]

"You don;t have any wheres near the credibility that Rufus has."

You seem to forget that Rufus and I agree about 95% of the time, and it's usually you that we are correcting .

But we can agree on this. Rufus has credibility. No argument there. But then again, unlike you and your fellow travelers, he has experience and training in medicine and science.