seriously amiss

[ScaleCraft]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lionel-No-1662 ... 2815543991
So.....pre-war...NOT knuckle couplers. 1662's had box couplers. Hard to tell with garbage photos....but those sure look like needlepoint axle fast angle wheels on the tender trucks.
Drawbar looks right.

[chuck]

Well, he/she does indicate it's a "restoration" project. It looks like someone's been doing that and not to particular about restoring to its original state. Not bad for $7.50.

[ScaleCraft]

The real issue is you need as much "original" as possible to "restore". This one...lordonlyknows how much original is there.

[chuck]

The boiler casting, drive wheels/running gear and the tender casting?

[Roy]

I've never had a prewar switcher, so I don't recognize the cast or molded pilot. The tender trucks are MPC die-cast sprung type. No evidence of a bell mechanism, in the tender.

[ScaleCraft]

unless it's a renumbered 1656. Sliding shoes, bell on op of firebox, KNUCKLE couplers, 2403B (6403B) bell tender.....who knows what trucks are on the tender. Pre-wars would have had stamped steel with applied journal boxes. At 21 plus shipping, not interested in pursuing it. Too much wrong or questionable.
The lettering is wrong on the cab. The "2" for sure is wrong. The Lionel Lines is too fresh, the "O" looks like the DECAL is nicked.

[chuck]

1665, sliding shoes. Tender is a wreck. Should have staple-end trucks and a rear coil coupler.

[Roy]

I see no evidence of decal film. Further, the tender frame appears to be stamped 2203T which, according to my TCA book, is correct for a 1662.

[ScaleCraft]

I revert to earlier statements. How much is original? Maybe lettering on sides is dry transfer. Would explain A) no decal film edge, and B) unevenness.
This is like those bands from the 50's and 60's touring now....if they have ONE member of the original band, they can still call themselves by the band name.


Now, if this one came with a bag of original parts, to put it back the way it came, we wouldn't be having this enlightening discussion, would we?

Sure didn't SEE a bag of parts.

[ScaleCraft]

And is the 2403B correct..or 6403B?

One will never know.

https://www.tandem-associates.com/lione ... 6_loco.htm

Go down to the tender paragraphs...

[rogruth]

Dave,
It appears to me that you have had a really good time today investigating some of your favorite "evil-bait" posts.
Keep up the good work and having FUN with trains.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

He does seem to have a lot of time to spend chasing after this stuff considering how frequently he's told us he has no actual use of eBay -- entertainment only, I guess.

[rogruth]

He does seem to have a lot of time to spend chasing after this stuff considering how frequently he's told us he has no actual use of eBay -- entertainment only, I guess.

There was a time when there was a lot of model train info on MTJ. Now it seems to be more for entertainment.
Since I am not adding to or changing my layout MTJ has become entertainment for me. So I am not complaining.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

He does seem to have a lot of time to spend chasing after this stuff considering how frequently he's told us he has no actual use of eBay -- entertainment only, I guess.

There was a time when there was a lot of model train info on MTJ. Now it seems to be more for entertainment.
Since I am not adding to or changing my layout MTJ has become entertainment for me. So I am not complaining.

No, we all need a good wheeze now and again.....

[ScaleCraft]

So, this all started when I looked at MTJ one morning, and saw not one post was new in the list visible on-screen, in both 2-rail and 3-rail. Rather than put up a bunch of photos of engines with road numbers done with a sharpie and wheels off the track, I did this.

Now I'm gonna get dive-bombed by some disgruntled old pilot in a Piper cub.