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Re: Seen in Print

Postby J. S. Bach » Mon May 11, 2020 10:47 pm

Ah, a 7-11.

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Re: Seen in Print

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue May 12, 2020 10:52 am

I had an almost identical sign on the door to my main lab - Velociraptor incidents numbers of days since last one, etc.....
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Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue May 12, 2020 11:08 am

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Re: Seen in Print

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Tue May 12, 2020 11:18 am

The spelling sayz it all, doesn't it. :D

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Re: Seen in Print

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue May 12, 2020 11:58 am

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:The spelling sayz it all, doesn't it. :D


Light reading for the next gloomy dismal rainy evening late at night prior to pondering over some ancient and forgotten lore.
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Tue May 12, 2020 12:05 pm

What is a ghost?

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Re: Seen in Print

Postby webenda » Tue May 12, 2020 1:10 pm

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:The spelling sayz it all, doesn't it. :D

I don't see a problem with spelling, Murph. If you mean, "Sciens," that is the correct spelling of the Authors name.

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Re: Seen in Print

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue May 12, 2020 1:14 pm

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:What is a ghost?


an apparition of a dead person which is believed to appear or become manifest to the living, typically as a nebulous image.

1 : the seat of life or intelligence : soul give up the ghost. 2 : a disembodied soul especially : the soul of a dead person believed to be an inhabitant of the unseen world or to appear to the living in bodily likeness. 3 : spirit, demon.
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby webenda » Tue May 12, 2020 1:34 pm

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:What is a ghost?


A ghost (sometimes known as an apparition, haunt, phantom, poltergeist, shade, specter or spectre, spirit, spook, and wraith) is the soul or spirit of a dead person or animal that can appear to the living.

I read something interesting in the Catholic bible concerning ghosts...

Deuteronomy 18:10-13 New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (NRSVCE)
10 No one shall be found among you who makes a son or daughter pass through fire, or who practices divination, or is a soothsayer, or an augur, or a sorcerer, 11 or one who casts spells, or who consults ghosts or spirits, or who seeks oracles from the dead. 12 For whoever does these things is abhorrent to the Lord; it is because of such abhorrent practices that the Lord your God is driving them out before you. 13 You must remain completely loyal to the Lord your God.
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Tue May 12, 2020 1:40 pm

webenda wrote:
MurphOnMillerAve wrote:The spelling sayz it all, doesn't it. :D

I don't see a problem with spelling, Murph. If you mean, "Sciens," that is the correct spelling of the Authors name.

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Re: Seen in Print

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Tue May 12, 2020 1:42 pm

Do they exist?
And if they do, what does "exist" mean ?

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Re: Seen in Print

Postby webenda » Tue May 12, 2020 2:15 pm

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:Do they exist?
And if they do, what does "exist" mean ?


Only God know the answer to your question, Murph.

What does the word of God have to say about it?

Psalm 146:3-4 New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (NRSVCE)
3 Do not put your trust in princes, in mortals, in whom there is no help.
4 When their breath departs, they return to the earth; on that very day their plans perish.

Ecclesiastes 9:5 New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (NRSVCE)
5 The living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no more reward, and even the memory of them is lost.

Ecclesiastes 9:10 New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (NRSVCE)
10 Whatever your hand finds to do, do with your might; for there is no work or thought or knowledge or wisdom in Sheol, to which you are going.

Perhaps we need to know what Sheol is.

Sheol
A Hebrew word corresponding to the Greek word “Hades.” It is translated “Grave” (capitalized), to distinguish it as the common grave of mankind rather than an individual grave.

While several derivations for the Hebrew word sheʼohlʹ have been offered, apparently it is derived from the Hebrew verb sha·ʼalʹ, meaning “ask; request.” Regarding Sheol, in A Compendious Hebrew Lexicon, Samuel Pike stated that it is “the common receptacle or region of the dead; so called from the insatiability of the grave, which is as it were always asking or craving more.”​—Cambridge, 1811, p. 148.

The Hebrew word sheʼohlʹ occurs 65 times in the Masoretic text. In the King James Version, it is translated 31 times as “hell,” 31 times as “grave,” and 3 times as “pit.” The Catholic Douay Version rendered the word 63 times as “hell,” once as “pit,” and once as “death.” In addition, at Isaiah 7:11 the Hebrew text originally read sheʼohlʹ, and it was rendered as “Hades” in the ancient Greek versions of Aquila, Symmachus, and Theodotion, and as “hell” in the Douay Version.

There is no English word that conveys the precise sense of the Hebrew word sheʼohlʹ. Commenting on the use of the word “hell” in Bible translation, Collier’s Encyclopedia (1986, Vol. 12, p. 28) says: “Since Sheol in Old Testament times referred simply to the abode of the dead and suggested no moral distinctions, the word ‘hell,’ as understood today, is not a happy translation.” More recent versions transliterate the word into English as “Sheol.”​

Regarding Sheol, the Encyclopædia Britannica (1971, Vol. 11, p. 276) noted: “Sheol was located somewhere ‘under’ the earth. . . . The state of the dead was one of neither pain nor pleasure. Neither reward for the righteous nor punishment for the wicked was associated with Sheol. The good and the bad alike, tyrants and saints, kings and orphans, Israelites and gentiles​—all slept together without awareness of one another.”
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby webenda » Tue May 12, 2020 2:18 pm

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:Do they exist?
And if they do, what does "exist" mean ?

If just want a bunch of opinions on the matter, my opinion is, "When your die you are dead, no ghosts."
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Tue May 12, 2020 2:26 pm

webenda wrote:
MurphOnMillerAve wrote:Do they exist?
And if they do, what does "exist" mean ?

If just want a bunch of opinions on the matter, my opinion is, "When your die you are dead, no ghosts."

And yet, we are told that Jesus, while still on His Cross, said to one of the crucified men hanging there next to Him, that on that day, he would be in Paradise with Him.

Also, "In My Father's house there are many mansions."

And the episode on the water when Jesus assured the men there that He was not a ghost.


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