$1T stimulus

[Rufus T. Firefly]

My grandparents lived through it, but never even mentioned it.

That was probably with good reason. Medicine then was pretty crude by today's standards and a lot of people died.

[up148]

The scary part is this is all theory and no one knows how it will come out.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

The scary part is this is all theory and no one knows how it will come out.

Well, not quite. We do know and understand very well how epidemics and all propagate and how to react to them and how to control things - we just failed.

It's where we are going now that's the unknown. We've totally mucked it up and will be very long in the recovery phase. We're probably screwing it all up now re-opening too soon and too fast; we'll know how bad that will be shortly. Numbers in GA and TN look bad.

Economics -- well, having a trade war with anyone right now would be a bad idea.......or get into a blame game with the country that holds control of our medical drug pipeline....

[up148]

The scary part is this is all theory and no one knows how it will come out.

Well, not quite. We do know and understand very well how epidemics and all propagate and how to react to them and how to control things - we just failed.

It's where we are going now that's the unknown. We've totally mucked it up and will be very long in the recovery phase. We're probably screwing it all up now re-opening too soon and too fast; we'll know how bad that will be shortly. Numbers in GA and TN look bad.

Economics -- well, having a trade war with anyone right now would be a bad idea.......or get into a blame game with the country that holds control of our medical drug pipeline....

This is the part I meant. I don't have enough knowledge to comment on the true medical solution.

KCMO suburbs open tomorrow, but people totally relaxed on masks and gloves already during the past week, which I think is very scary. Went to Lowe's on Friday and virtually no one wearing masks or social distancing...totally different than a week ago. The area has been very lucky with very low numbers, but if the virus is to ever gain ground here, the time is now. These people must think they're immortal.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

KCMO suburbs open tomorrow, but people totally relaxed on masks and gloves already during the past week, which I think is very scary. Went to Lowe's on Friday and virtually no one wearing masks or social distancing...totally different than a week ago. The area has been very lucky with very low numbers, but if the virus is to ever gain ground here, the time is now. These people must think they're immortal.

That is a bit scary - there are way too many people that simply do not accept this as being real. Wait 2-3 weeks and see.....

[webenda]

Stimulus for the deceased (DECD).

[HONDO74]

Last week was the first time that any cases had been identified in Lawrence county Mo where I live. 7 Cases. All 7 live in a long term health care facility. They couldn't go anywhere and were not allowed visitors. Apparently a health care worker brought it into the facility.

[rogruth]

Stimulus for the deceased (DECD).

Any explanation, Wayne?
Do you know that person?

[webenda]

Stimulus for the deceased (DECD).

Any explanation, Wayne?
Do you know that person?

Sure Roger, the check showed up in my mailbox. I did not open it because it is not mine.

The IRS IT department was given the assignment to write (or modify), faster than humanly possible, a program to distribute Economic Impact Payments. They did the impossible and bank deposits and checks began to be distributed. Oops! They didn't think to add an "If DECD, then do not distribute an EIP payment" in the code.

https://www.google.com/search?q=decease ... e&ie=UTF-8

Charles W Benda was my brother.

[robert.]

That most likely is how election ballots will end up , if done by mail

[Rufus T. Firefly]

That most likely is how election ballots will end up , if done by mail

Actually, there is no good reason for that to happen.

[up148]

When systems are overwhelmed and you hire hundreds or thousands of new workers to help, this is what happens. People are not infallible and you have to want to do a good job, not to make mistakes...don't see that happening with part time workers who will be gone before the mistakes are evident. This is what scares me...people who get the stimulus who shouldn't, stimulus sent to deceased or ??? All the people I know who weren't supposed to get it, didn't, so hopefully Wayne's experience is an isolated case.

But, no reason to think it doesn't work this way with mail in voting. Sure it doesn't have to be this way, but....................

[Rufus T. Firefly]

When systems are overwhelmed and you hire hundreds or thousands of new workers to help, this is what happens. People are not infallible and you have to want to do a good job, not to make mistakes...don't see that happening with part time workers who will be gone before the mistakes are evident. This is what scares me...people who get the stimulus who shouldn't, stimulus sent to deceased or ??? All the people I know who weren't supposed to get it, didn't, so hopefully Wayne's experience is an isolated case.

But, no reason to think it doesn't work this way with mail in voting. Sure it doesn't have to be this way, but....................

Every election the military votes by mail - about 3 million ballots by mail. The machinery and expertise are in place already to do this properly.

[robert.]

Pa. spent 90 million last year on upgrades and new machines.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Pa. spent 90 million last year on upgrades and new machines.

Yes. This voter fraud from mailed in ballots is just another example of the standard propaganda originating from the WH.