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[robert.]

"21% of teen drivers involved in fatal accidents were distracted by their cell phones. "AAA.
Nobody wants to walkout of school in protest of this.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

"21% of teen drivers involved in fatal accidents were distracted by their cell phones. "AAA.
Nobody wants to walkout of school in protest of this.

Maybe parents should walk out then; average age a child gets a smartphone is just over 10 years old. Maybe if parents cared a little more; maybe if they were all disabled at speeds exceeding 20 mph (that could be done), maybe....maybe...maybe...maybe.....naahhhhhhhh! We don't want more regulations that save lives in this country.

[robert.]

A few cars around here have bumper stickers saying. " If i'm texting call my mom." With a number to call. When my cousin and i turned 10 our grandfather showed us how to use a gun. Then he shot a watermelon. Gallagher would have been impressed. that watermelon flew 10-20 feet into the air. He wanted to show us how dangerous they are.It stuck. I have guns stored away very well. That kind of came back to good parenting. Funny how you need a license for everything today. Except having a kid

[HONDO74]

"21% of teen drivers involved in fatal accidents were distracted by their cell phones. "AAA.
Nobody wants to walkout of school in protest of this.

Maybe parents should walk out then; average age a child gets a smartphone is just over 10 years old. Maybe if parents cared a little more; maybe if they were all disabled at speeds exceeding 20 mph (that could be done), maybe....maybe...maybe...maybe.....naahhhhhhhh! We don't want more regulations that save lives in this country.

No maybe about it. I think it could be done. Are most of the phone equipped with a gps app. The ones I have seen tell how fast you are going. So the app disables the phone over 20 mph. But now we will here from all those that scream you can have my phone when you take it from my cold dead hands. That will be as soon as you crash and are dead.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Can we focus on just one woe at a time? Stick to the school shooting topic. Please. Then, try suggesting something concrete that might work. I am a teacher, and I have occasion to be in schools. What practical, innovative (?), concrete , workable, doable advice do you have for me? Huh?

I had suggested posting a guard(s) at one entrance, through which everybody must pass. NO EXCEPTIONS. I still do not see why not. Not one reply here made a good, reasonable case why not to do it, and certainly did not come up with anything viable in place pf it.

On the News and across the country, so many experts and complainers; so little time.
Murph

[Rufus T. Firefly]

What practical, innovative (?), conreete , workable, doable advice do you have for me? Huh?

Home school everyone remotely on-line.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

What practical, innovative (?), conreete , workable, doable advice do you have for me? Huh?

Home school everyone remotely on-line.

Unworthy of you on such a topic. C'mon. be serious.

[HONDO74]

Can we focus on just one woe at a time? Stick to the school shooting topic. Please. Then, try suggesting something concrete that might work. I am a teacher, and I have occasion to be in schools. What practical, innovative (?), conreete , workable, doable advice do you have for me? Huh?

That was where I was at when this began. Until they can come up with better solutions, The only immediate solution would be to secure the school so weapons can not enter the school. Not just guns but all weapons.

You have to stop the possibility of a shooting before it happens.

I don't know how it is where you live but around here you can't get into a court house with a weapon....

[robert.]

Since Shandy Hook, 438 people were shot, 138 of whom were killed (in school shootings). More children have committed suicide do to bullying.

[chuck]

The school shootings revolve around people not getting involved way before the person showed up at the school with the weapons. I can't think of any technology that will deal with a crazy person showing up in body armor and armed to the teeth with a couple hundred rounds of ammo. In every case, someone knew something was wrong well before the event and did little or nothing about it. In many cases people were aware of the triggering mechanisms, bullying, ostracism, even physical abuse and again they didn't do anything about it.

Engaging in activities that push emotionally or mentally unstable people over the age AND allowing them to procure significant quantities of weapons is a recipe for disaster.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Can we focus on just one woe at a time? Stick to the school shooting topic. Please. Then, try suggesting something concrete that might work. I am a teacher, and I have occasion to be in schools. What practical, innovative (?), conreete , workable, doable advice do you have for me? Huh?

That was where I was at when this began. Until they can come up with better solutions, The only immediate solution would be to secure the school so weapons can not enter the school. Not just guns but all weapons.

You have to stop the possibility of a shooting before it happens.

I don't know how it is where you live but around here you can't get into a court house with a weapon....

Seems to me to be solid advice and perspective, especially mentioning the courthouses as an example. I was on a jury a few times and the security one went thru to get even an inch into the building was no-foolin-around serious and formidable. And that was a place packed with criminals and emotionally distraught families. Good example, HONDO. If we can be so serious about safety at courthouses, aren't our children and their teachers worthy of safety measures, I ask again.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

The school shootings revolve around people not getting involved way before the person showed up at the school with the weapons. I can't think of any technology that will deal with a crazy person showing up in body armor and armed to the teeth with a couple hundred rounds of ammo. In every case, someone knew something was wrong well before the event and did little or nothing about it. In many cases people were aware of the triggering mechanisms, bullying, ostracism, even physical abuse and again they didn't do anything about it.

Engaging in activities that push emotionally or mentally unstable people over the age AND allowing them to procure significant quantities of weapons is a recipe for disaster.

And? That all makes sense, of course, but what do we do now - right now - to help protect folks in schools?

[chuck]

And? That all makes sense, of course, but what do we do now - right now - to help protect folks in schools?

Either you start seriously clamping down on weapons ownership (I don;t see that happening anytime soon) or you try to make the school more like a courthouse with insane levels of screening. I do find it amusing that judges have no problem making rulings to let people carry concealed weapons in everyplace but where THEY work. Hey, if it's good enough for you it should be could enough for everyone else.

The active shooter train class we went through included statistics on these events. Even with the Vegas massacre you are more likely to get hit by lightning than to get involved in one of these incidents. This doesn't make it OK or that we should ignore it. It does mean we need to take a hard look at any changes before we make things worse (and I know we can do that because we have the track record to back it up).

[HONDO74]

And? That all makes sense, of course, but what do we do now - right now - to help protect folks in schools?

Presently the students are the first line of defense. They know which of their peers are a potential problem. Around here the schools and the police have become way more pro-active. Several students have been taken into protective custody. They said things on social media that was reported and the police responded.

[robert.]

This clamp down is in inner cities.Lots of inner city schools have metal detectors. Take note that these school shootings happen in Lilly white suburban America." Those thing don't happen around here" All these kids walking out in protest are the same ones that protested having to carry clear pack backs and handbags. A few years ago school systems tried to make them carry clear bags. All the parents screamed "it's against my kids right to choose a backpack". Well maybe seeing what is in a kids bag is a good thing now.