Escaping The U.S.

[HONDO74]

What was the reason all the Europeans came to this country in the first place. What were they escaping ?? Was Europe that big of a stinkhole ?

Escape from poverty, political oppression, religious persecution, and in some cases they were being deported as criminals combined with economic opportunity for others.

How did that work out for the native Americans that were here before them. ??

[Rufus T. Firefly]

What was the reason all the Europeans came to this country in the first place. What were they escaping ?? Was Europe that big of a stinkhole ?

Escape from poverty, political oppression, religious persecution, and in some cases they were being deported as criminals combined with economic opportunity for others.

How did that work out for the native Americans that were here before them. ??

At one point it was working out rather well and some of the state Gov'ts actually had good relationships, honored treaties that had been negotiated, etc. like honorable people.

That went downhill fast..........

[HONDO74]

At one point it was working out rather well and some of the state Gov'ts actually had good relationships, honored treaties that had been negotiated, etc. like honorable people.

That went downhill fast..........

There were no HONORABLE people. White man speak with forked tongue from the beginning.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Sort of like the need to wear bell bottoms and platform shoes while sporting a mullet.

Honestly, Tom, I don't know what I felt wearing that image. However, that gear was accepted enough that I felt I was conforming enough to be accepted wearing it as a teacher. My assimilated parents and grandparents did not wear their hair nor such gear , as I did, but I assumed that was likely generational rather than a consideration of being assimilated or not.

I never felt foolish but did consciously wonder when the fads would pass, as they did soon enough.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

I sold a Philly real estate map on eBay. If i remember right this map was printed around 1870. It was directed towards realtors and showed areas by ethnicity. It has Irish,Polish German sections and other Philly is still pretty much segregated that way. So much so that they need to bus school kids all over the city just to meet state laws on segregation.

Very interesting point to learn (for me) and to include in this conversation , Robert. I'd imagine that's what Rufus was alluding to when he mentioned Boston, too.

Perhaps the great majority of people working in one major, common industry, forcing folks to converse and survive such dangerous conditions as those prevalent in a steel mill was the main factor in everybody desiring assimilation throughout the Pittsburgh area? They had to co-operate and communicate to survive and thrive, so the common language of English was key, which likely brought with it the need to have much in common with everybody around oneself.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

At one point it was working out rather well and some of the state Gov'ts actually had good relationships, honored treaties that had been negotiated, etc. like honorable people.

That went downhill fast..........

There were no HONORABLE people. White man speak with forked tongue from the beginning.

History proves you wrong.

In Pa there were negotiated treaties that when violated by the settlers encroaching onto land that was not agreed to were enforced by Gov't troops out of Philadelphia that went in and forceably removed the settlers and burnt their settlements to the ground.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

I sold a Philly real estate map on eBay. If i remember right this map was printed around 1870. It was directed towards realtors and showed areas by ethnicity. It has Irish,Polish German sections and other Philly is still pretty much segregated that way. So much so that they need to bus school kids all over the city just to meet state laws on segregation.

Very interesting point to learn (for me) and to include in this conversation , Robert. I'd imagine that's what Rufus was alluding to when he mentioned Boston, too.

Perhaps the great majority of people working in one major, common industry, forcing folks to converse and survive such dangerous conditions as those prevalent in a steel mill was the main factor in everybody desiring assimilation throughout the Pittsburgh area?

Again, I don't feel that's assimilation but rather acceptance - at the end of the day folks went home to their respective sections of towns and cities all over. This prevails today -- we have little Korea and Vietnam and a host of other communities all across the DC metro area - there are entire strip malls along the roads that are either totally Korean or Vietnamese. The diversity here is quite significant.

[HONDO74]

History proves you wrong.

I'm in the process of re-writing history. Mine is different than the one you use.

It works for the democrats.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

History proves you wrong.

I'm in the process of re-writing history. Mine is different than the one you use.

It works for the democrats.

It works for the republicans all the time - reality is irrelevant; just made stuff up and say over and over...... Wait. I think I remember that being deon before

[chuck]

It works for the republicans all the time - reality is irrelevant; just made stuff up and say over and over......

Is that what happens to "fake news", it becomes fake history?

[robert.]

With the world so populated, we have no where to escape to. Must be why they legalized marry Jane. Let the sheeple numb themselves.

[Tom Dempsey]

It works for the republicans all the time - reality is irrelevant; just made stuff up and say over and over......

Is that what happens to "fake news", it becomes fake history?

Yes

[chuck]

Oldie but a goodie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAcHfymgh4Y

[Rufus T. Firefly]

It works for the republicans all the time - reality is irrelevant; just made stuff up and say over and over......

Is that what happens to "fake news", it becomes fake history?

Whoever is in charge gets to write history; the rest becomes mythology.

[up148]

It works for the republicans all the time - reality is irrelevant; just made stuff up and say over and over......

Is that what happens to "fake news", it becomes fake history?

We've had a great deal of that for centuries.

BH