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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Feb 22, 2016 12:58 pm

healey36 wrote:A bit of history on Island Park:

http://www.fantasyislandcampground.com/about_us.html

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Good info there! Thanks for tracking that down and posting the link!
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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:36 am

Taking a little ride over on the Western Maryland for a few cards..............over near Pen Mar....a good distance back in time with those passenger cars.

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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:56 am

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:Taking a little ride over on the Western Maryland for a few cards..............over near Pen Mar....a good distance back in time with those passenger cars. ..

I've long ago concluded that those car-length, elongated "uplifts" in the roofs were for headroom and ventilation. Have I been right?
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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:36 am

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:Taking a little ride over on the Western Maryland for a few cards..............over near Pen Mar....a good distance back in time with those passenger cars. ..

I've long ago concluded that those car-length, elongated "uplifts" in the roofs were for headroom and ventilation. Have I been right?
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The clerestory roof center? Generally for ventilation - vents are in the sides of the raised section and could be opened or closed; a variety of styles as well that also be directional to some extent.
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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:16 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
MurphOnMillerAve wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:Taking a little ride over on the Western Maryland for a few cards..............over near Pen Mar....a good distance back in time with those passenger cars. ..

I've long ago concluded that those car-length, elongated "uplifts" in the roofs were for headroom and ventilation. Have I been right?
Murph


The clerestory roof center? Generally for ventilation - vents are in the sides of the raised section and could be opened or closed; a variety of styles as well that also be directional to some extent.

Well, if you're going to get all educated and proper on me, yes, that would be the terminology I was seeking but could not :? find (obviously). :oops: Glad one of us knowz what's up. :mrgreen: "Clerestory." 8) Cool. :D (And yet another example of why clown avatars are such a marvelous juxtaposition to your real dignity and presence, sir.)

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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Wed Feb 24, 2016 7:33 am

WM 4-4-0 "Monocacy"

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Postby healey36 » Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:44 am

Ol' engine #5...I just picked up a copy of that card. Built by the Hayward-Bartlett Company, "Hayward Bartlett & Company, Stovefounders, Plumbers, Architectural Iron Works, Locomotive Builders, Steam & Hot Water Works".

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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Wed Feb 24, 2016 12:22 pm

healey36 wrote:Ol' engine #5...


I have a couple more WM engines to post......

I just picked up a copy of that card. Built by the Hayward-Bartlett Company, "Hayward Bartlett & Company, Stovefounders, Plumbers, Architectural Iron Works, Locomotive Builders, Steam & Hot Water Works".


Where was that company based?
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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby healey36 » Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:44 pm

Baltimore...here's a link with an abbreviated history:

http://www.firehydrant.org/pictures/koppers.html

WM locomotive #6, also a 4-4-0, was built by Hayward-Bartlett as well. Engine #5, Monocacy, was the last named locomotive built for the WM.

#1 4-4-0 Green Spring (blt by Norris)
#2 4-4-0 Western Maryland (blt by Baldwin)
#3 4-4-0 Patapsco (blt by Baldwin)
#4 4-4-0 Pipe Creek (blt by Baldwin)
#5 4-4-0 Monocacy (blt by Hayward-Bartlett)

A few others, Conewago, Hanover, Heidelberg, Gettysburg, and Alliance were brought onto the roster with the acquisition of the Hanover Junction, Hanover and Gettysburg (various builders).

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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:49 pm

healey36 wrote:Baltimore...here's a link with an abbreviated history:

http://www.firehydrant.org/pictures/koppers.html

WM locomotive #6, also a 4-4-0, was built by Hayward-Bartlett as well. Engine #5, Monocacy, was the last named locomotive built for the WM.

#1 4-4-0 Green Spring (blt by Norris)
#2 4-4-0 Western Maryland (blt by Baldwin)
#3 4-4-0 Patapsco (blt by Baldwin)
#4 4-4-0 Pipe Creek (blt by Baldwin)
#5 4-4-0 Monocacy (blt by Hayward-Bartlett)

A few others, Conewago, Hanover, Heidelberg, Gettysburg, and Alliance were brought onto the roster with the acquisition of the Hanover Junction, Hanover and Gettysburg (various builders).

Healey


Now we'll have to see what engines I have cards of to post to match any of those noted above!
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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby rogruth » Wed Feb 24, 2016 2:25 pm

Hayward-Bartlett did not have all their stuff in one basket.
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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby John Webster » Thu Feb 25, 2016 1:29 am

Interesting train. Just guessing but the loco's proportions, what looks to be a straight stack, slide valves and crosshead driven injector pump place it around 1875-1885. I seem to remember the Monocacy pic having shown up in the Yahoo Civil War Railroading group.

Rufus, you come up with some nice photos.
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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby healey36 » Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:31 am

According to Bill Edson Monocacy was delivered to the WM in March 1864 and was retired from service in 1885.

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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:33 am

#33 at Hagerstown.......

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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Feb 26, 2016 7:31 am

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