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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby 2railjon » Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:37 am

Butch, OMG!!!! That T- is spectacular!!!!!! :shock: :shock:
Thank for sharing the photos!!!!!!
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby rogruth » Tue Oct 13, 2015 9:10 am

Sarge,

I don't know what it should be is but philistine is not the word to call you.
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby 2railjon » Tue Oct 13, 2015 9:56 am

Sarge, I for one could never stand Picaso's art!!!
Now that you pointed the pilot out, I'm kinda bummed my model looks to have the similar issue. :cry:
But still Lee's work is a masterpiece compared to my poor stock T1.

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On another note, today is Nat'l No Bra Day as well as Nat'l Yorkshire Pudding Day!
I say celebrate both!!!! :mrgreen:
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby sarge » Tue Oct 13, 2015 10:35 am

Jon, mate:

I didn't mean to have people all bummed out, but more as an observation of what it takes to bring a model up a few notches; it's not a trivial exercise.

Lee is a talented and incredibly observant man from what I see.

My musing is more a feeble attempt at understanding why your T1 actually balances nicely between detail, finish, &c to me. You never noticed the pilot and to be honest neither did I in all the photos you've shown of that loco. But, raise the bar in one aspect of the same model and suddenly my eye goes straight to that what suddenly cries out as needing brought up to the same "level" as the new finish.

This begs the question that asks whether there can be such a thing as "too good" in a model, at least to my rather tired old eyes.

Imagine the potential (don't bring cost into this, now!) of a loco after Gary Schrader has broken every bone in its little body, finished by Lee, and with a drive from Jay in it, all aspects brought into an equal and balanced level of neurosis.

BTW, lovely pair of puds, that...

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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby Tramp » Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:33 pm

Part of the issue is the way the shadow of the field behind meets exactly at the bottom of the pilot, which exaggerates the problem.

If you look at this without glasses . . . at first I thought the track rail below was the correct rail the locomotive was sitting on. Pilot looks fine!

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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby E7 » Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:06 pm

[quote="sarge"]In that vein, I have to ask (and no, this isn't a slam on anyone's model or modelling choices), does a masterful weather become moot when one is confronted by a visual flaw in the model itself?

In this case, my eye is drawn away from the finish and jarred by the pilot height off the rail. Now, in person I'd bet the effect isn't nearly so jarring but photography is a merciless thing, especially shot at track level in the case of the pilot height.

Sarge,

I certainly wouldn't call you a Philistine for making an observation. As our Mr. T says: opinion

Looks that way to me too, and I might be bothered more by the idea that it (the pilot) also appears to be tilted upward.

Sometimes pics fool us. Maybe the real world item is perfect, hard to tell.

Whether any of that is accurate or not does not affect the quality of the weathering. It stands alone, to be liked or disliked, whatever one's preference. (opinion) :D

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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby 2railjon » Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:16 pm

The real question is how many Yorkshire Terriers are needed to make a batch of Yorkshire pudding? :mrgreen:
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby rogruth » Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:47 pm

Is Yorkshire pudding worth having if you do NOT have it served as Jon shows?
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby Tramp » Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:15 pm

Roger, are you getting enough?
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby rogruth » Tue Oct 13, 2015 5:05 pm

Hmmmmm. Enough what? :o :shock:
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby 2railjon » Tue Oct 13, 2015 6:37 pm

rogruth wrote:Hmmmmm. Enough what? :o :shock:


Enough Yorkshire pudding Man, Yorkshire pudding! :D
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby 2railjon » Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:51 pm

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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby J. S. Bach » Tue Oct 13, 2015 9:43 pm

sarge wrote: ...snip... It's a very personal thing; I can't stand Monet for example, ...snip...

Right on, mate!! I have two very thick Monet coffee-table format picture books that make excellent record flatteners. About the only thing that they are good for. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :lol: :mrgreen:

As far as Picasso; ah, never mind.

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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby J. S. Bach » Tue Oct 13, 2015 9:44 pm

2railjon wrote: ...snip...

I like yours better., The T-1, I mean.

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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby 2railjon » Tue Oct 13, 2015 10:35 pm

Dave, now I'm curious. Why do you flatten records? Are we talking 33 LP type vinyl records?
Inquiring minds need to know!
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