TrainZ, Roger's neighbors and I are going to decide the 2020 Presidential Election

[robert.]

Mail in was needed for this election. Lazy or not. a record number of people voted this year. No one knew where we would be with covid-19. What id things were 20x worse. At the last minute they say " we need to vote by mail" It would have taken months to get things ready. By saying early on we are having mail in voting rule changes. Thing were able to move rather smoothly with getting ballots out. now receiving/counting that's a different story. almost sounds like a cluster f%&k. In the end. We still have till 12:01 Jan 20th. Right? But that don't fit our microwave society. For what it's worth. i'm with on the vote in person. I'm pretty sure PA. will stay with a mail in option. They spent $90 million on ballot scanning machines. Then again you always have government waste. they may throw out these machines next year.

[Neil]

If sanity is the criteria for voting, those using mail-in ballots are clearly in the mask wearing, things are perilous today category, whereas those voting in person walking around without a mask are insane or fools. Personally I voted the old fashioned way, but there weren't too many folks around at 800 PM and I and everyone in my prosperous, well educated suburban polling place were masked.

I'd say we're hearing a lot of the "sore loser" type opinions on voting by mail. The Republican party is the official "voter suppression" party because they damn well know that the more people who vote, the less likely Republican candidates are to win. The party of the toxic male personality with white skin is in eclipse. It's just a matter of time. Just hope the multi-racial society that's coming treats us and our children better than we treated them and their children. I'm not optimistic. Groups that finally get power after decades and centuries of mistreatment usually haven't become better people for their experience.

[robert.]

Everyone had masks where i voted. I like in person voting. It’s a social event. I also liked tge old clunky machines. Our new oner resemble photocopiers/fax machines.

[HONDO74]

Everyone had masks where i voted. I like in person voting. It’s a social event. I also liked tge old clunky machines. Our new oner resemble photocopiers/fax machines.

everyone was wearing a mask where I voted. That was the longest line I have ever seen. They said Missouri had the largest voter turnout that they have ever had.

[Chris Webster]

The lead in Georgia flipped to Biden when absentee votes were counted in John Lewis' district:
https://twitter.com/ErinKPeterson/statu ... 4814411778

[Neil]

Tear down those statues Mr. Trump, to paraphrase Ronald Reagan.

The party of Jefferson Davis may finally have become the real heir to the party of Lincoln.

[HONDO74]

Here it is 4 days after the election and PA turned out to be a real Cluster "F" A bunch of incompetent A Holes running the show. Still counting Votes from unverified sources Looks like the Democrats are stuffing the ballot boxes.

[Neil]

The problems in Pennsylvania are purely logistic and not unusual given the change in voting locations. Stuffing the ballot box my *** . Sore losers are sore losers. The fact is 4,000,000 more American citizens have voted for Biden than Trump. That's the reality. He won by a razor's edge in 2016 and will lose, in all likelihood by the same in 2020. Good riddance to bad baggage, and the will of the people, not the former slave states, be done.

[HONDO74]

The problems in Pennsylvania are purely logistic and not unusual given the change in voting locations. Stuffing the ballot box my *** . Sore losers are sore losers. The fact is 4,000,000 more American citizens have voted for Biden than Trump. That's the reality. He won by a razor's edge in 2016 and will lose, in all likelihood by the same in 2020. Good riddance to bad baggage, and the will of the people, not the former slave states, be done.

I believe Biden will be the next president. I said so over a week ago. This will be good for Neil and some others because Trump will be out of their Fkd up brains But they will still be blaming Trump for every thing that Biden Fks up.

Civil unrest will continue as this country tears itself apart at the seams. It's going to be one big bumpy ride next year.

I am looking forward to Biden doing away with Fracking in PA/ New York banned it awhile back and now New York gets their
natural gas from PA

It will also be fun watching the democrats do away with their police departments especially in the big demo controlled ones

[Neil]

If there is civil unrest it will be the lunatic fringe neo-nazis amongst the Trump supporters. Certainly a possibility judging from the morons protesting a legitimate election result and screaming at anyone who disagrees with them.

No one is going to ban fracking in Pennsylvania. No one is going to disband police departments. You have to be a complete idiot or devout believer in that lying ********* President of ours to believe that.

There are no socialists amongst the Democratic leadership. Most Republicans don't even know what socialism actually is, which is why they can blithely and idiotically suggest their opponents are socialists .

Maybe Susan Collins will caucus with the Democrats in the Senate to enable the country to pass some needed legislation to support the economy, the unemployed and health care despite Mitch McConnell and his ilk .

[HONDO74]

If there is civil unrest it will be the lunatic fringe neo-nazis amongst the Trump supporters. Certainly a possibility judging from the morons protesting a legitimate election result and screaming at anyone who disagrees with them.

No one is going to ban fracking in Pennsylvania. No one is going to disband police departments. You have to be a complete idiot or devout believer in that lying ********* President of ours to believe that.

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Trump is history now. It's BLM ansd Antifa in the drivers seat now as they supported the democrats and the democrats supported them. They will get their way with whatever they want. Did you not notice that Antifa is still rioting in Portland Their goal is to do away with the government and install their own. they are a 100 time worse than your so called neo-nazis that only exist in the minds of the liberal media..

Your living in a dream world. With all the new young liberal activist in the House Of reps that already said they were going to push this administration to the far left with the green new deal. They will get fracking banned. That is just one of their goals. A lot of things they are going to do will surprise the America people.

[v8vega]

The Communists are insisting there is no voter fraud, that's because they are the ones doing it and they don't want anyone to find out so they don't look. The media runs this country and they have no interest in finding voter fraud. They never ask how many people voted twice, How many ballots where the person has moved out of state, or died. Democrats who "find" ballots during the night and all the votes are for Biden. This unsolicited ballots mailed to everyone is the most fraudulent election ever. Biden is a fraudulent president.

[HONDO74]

The Communists are insisting there is no voter fraud, that's because they are the ones doing it and they don't want anyone to find out so they don't look. The media runs this country and they have no interest in finding voter fraud. They never ask how many people voted twice, How many ballots where the person has moved out of state, or died. Democrats who "find" ballots during the night and all the votes are for Biden. This unsolicited ballots mailed to everyone is the most fraudulent election ever. Biden is a fraudulent president.

Pelosi instituted amendment 25 to use against Trump for incompetence. Biden might be the first it's used against so the democrats can get Harris in as the president. And then the speaker of the house is next in line for the president.

If Trump were to somehow win Pelosi is going to impeach him again

[bob turner]

I note that many of my favorite forums censor this kind of stuff. I am proud to be a member of a group that can tolerate and read diverging opinions without pushing the forum police button.

As a card-carrying liberal, I need to pay attention to diverging opinions. I don't have to agree - but I need to understand.

As to Georgia - what a surprise! My liberal friends are saying the switch can be attributed to the efforts of Stacey Abrams.

And Pennsylvania - I lived on the Main Line during my formative years - a well-educated area with many of my classmates related to the folks who signed the Declaration of Independence. Way to go, gang.

[Neil]

I don't know any Communists or communists. Just card carrying progressives who believe in taking care of the poor, having a fair society, tolerating other people's preferences for sexual partners and gender assignment as long as they don't scare the pets (that's an Edwardian joke), providing for the national defense, health care, housing and education for all. Progressives. John Stuart Mill, not Karl Marx. No one I know is advocating for government ownership of the means of production, which is communism. You might want to read some history and political theory before you call people names that are ridiculously wrongheaded and bear no relation to their belief systems. I am no more a Communist than you are.