PA’s for Bob Turner

[Pacific Limited]

I got booted from OGR for insisting that folks not repeat my photos.

Sort of. It was really that you got into a disagreement with a vindictive ignoramus that was 30 years out of date on copyright.

In any case, best not to be there as it has truly declined into an advertising cesspool.

I hate to agree with that Martin, but yeah the other place is sadly slipping away. I like a lot of those folks on there, lots a good times, and unfortunately bad. The Makens, Rineair, MWMW hate campaigns were intoxicating and ran me off. In the other place’s defense, he tried hard to oust them and within the law stop them. Those at the line, the keyboard commandos (Rineair and his brother in law sock puppet account and Makens) found a way, sock puppet accounts and all. The message was reaching us!

[Pacific Limited]

Santiago alerted this one to me and he stood his ground with the group owner and the group owner updated the information and gave me credit. That was a small victory for me, but these pirates are under absolutely no obligation to do so and Meta defends them, it’s a God Damned communist country on Meta, ran by tyrants and criminals. I got only one thing to say about Meta/Facebook, F*%#@ them!

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?stor ... gGXLW4YTen

You can really see the peanut gallery, how many are even real people or are they bots? And each one paid the pirate through actions, clicks, reshares, your following the link above paid the criminal. Meta is free, well if it’s free you and I are the product and or property, use requires agreement on the TOS, all your rights belong to them and your consent and content, photos and all irregardless of copyright. It’s a total ripoff, and if anyone understood their rights, nobody would use this evil place, ever. But isn’t that part of it? The disinformation and coercion part, the sleight of hand?

The wonderful copyright violation form:

https://www.facebook.com/help/contact/copyrightform

[bob turner]

Yes, credit was all I ssk for - well, credit and accurate captions.

The Facebook form looks like a DMCA takedown request - that is actually an advance in the law of copyright.
The deal is, you demand they remove your art. If they don't, you can sue.

No matter what, suing is expensive, and folks know that. The government rarely sues on your behalf, and never for things like copyright and patent infringement. If Somebody totals your car, you have to sue, not the police. The exception may be criminal activity, like "hit and run," but even then they are not suing to help you recover.

It is a flawed system, but until recently it has been the best on the planet in many ways.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Santiago alerted this one to me and he stood his ground with the group owner and the group owner updated the information and gave me credit.

Interesting; I removed most if not all of my photos since in their TOS they get license free use of all posted content. They are operating in the belief that they have free use of your posted content. Anything to disrupt or dispute that and you're out the door.

Paying for a subscription for a magazine I don't read just to use a forum makes no sense. That it's now an advertising dung heap just confirms it's something I do not need.

I spend more time in my shop building models.....and rebuilding furniture. Got a barrister's bookcase unit to deliver on Thurs. Chair to re-upholster next week......and then there's another $0.50 rocker in the queue. Fun stuff, but I'll also be glad when they are all done and gone off to new homes.....sort of like many of the models I build now.

[up148]

Not a fan of any social media and I avoided it to protect myself, but with today's AI that's impossible. I totally parallel your thinking about FB/Meta, Erik. Sadly we live in a world where instant gratification, 15 seconds of fame and even wrong thinking is tolerated. I miss the days when you could just walk away from the fools showing their ignorance.............well I guess you can, just the number has grown exponentially.

And our media is just as bad. I think all those jobless English Majors went/go to work for news agencies or media houses and are merely honing their creative writing and fiction skills.

[Pacific Limited]

Something to mention, I always suspect influence from its source; my “Facebook friends” never met in person, don’t really know them, some 1500 plus individuals and more, since I’ve left the Meta-verse either have never attempted to reach me or worse have accused me of some elaborately crafted version of desertion. Like I’m some kind of a wierd-o that I closed down my Facebook and have turned against their captors. In a nutshell shell I am a whack-job for standing my ground against that brainwash community. Ugly, anyway you look at it. And in my humble opinion, absolutely no good will come from this. Like any good dictator, Meta has cornered the market, everything or everywhere you look those logos are on everything, and Meta owns the internet, if I don’t participate inside their platform; I’ll never reach anyone. Isolation, ghee, sounds just like a fascist dictator doesn’t it? They shut out all the print media, now it’s everyone. It’s all legal and everyone agrees to it. Either you agree or pay the price. This whole thing, it’s been perverted into a dreadful weapon aimed at humanity.

May you live in interesting times.