Hobo Jungle

[rogruth]

Thanks to all for the above .Better than I have seen on TV.

Where is the siding in relation to the accident?

[webenda]

Where is the siding in relation to the accident?

Roger,

It is south of the curve, right where the curve straightens out.

"There are some things we are trained for, there are some things I don't care what kind of training you have, you don't
always prepare for," fire Capt. Armando Hogan said. "This situation, particularly early on, with people inside the
train, with the injuries, and with people moaning and crying and screaming, it was a traumatic experience."

My prayers are for the victims, their families and the rescue workers.

[webenda]

Just got some info that the engineer was Rob Sanchez, Metrolink Engineer.

Fox News Report"

Some were puzzled, even dubious, that Metrolink pointed the finger at the engineer so quickly. "It is a rush to judgment,"
said Ray Garcia, who until 2006 was a conductor on the same Metrolink 111 train. Garcia, who now works for Amtrak,
ticked off several scenarios in which initial evidence could turn out to be misleading, such as if a central computer
showed that a signal was red when on the tracks it was not. "Just because Metrolink says it was the fault of the
engineer, it doesn't mean it's true," said Garcia, who knew the engineer through work. "It's just way too early in the
game to point the finger."

Los Angeles County Supervisor and Metrolink board member Don Knabe also said it's premature to blame the engineer.
"There could always be a technical malfunction where ... there was a green light both ways," he said.

A local teenager told CBS2-TV that he had exchanged a brief text message with the engineer shortly before the crash. The
station reported that the teen, Nick Williams, was among a group of kids who befriended the engineer and asked him
questions about his work.

Metrolink spokeswoman Denise TyrrellTyrrell said before the report aired that she would find it "unbelievable" that an
engineer would be text messaging while operating a train. Using a cell phone on duty is against Metrolink rules,
former conductor Garcia said.

The NTSB hopes to complete its final report within a year. Tyrrell said Metrolink was stepping ahead of the agency with
its findings because "we want to have an honest dialogue with our community."

[webenda]

The Last Message of Sanchez
The collision occurred at 04:23 PM.

[rogruth]

So the engineer was texting.I assume he was alone in the cab.??

That could lead to missing a signal.

[The Dirt]

[webenda]

So the engineer was texting.I assume he was alone in the cab.??

That could lead to missing a signal.

Could, but there are three signals. One before the siding, one in the middle of the siding and one at the end. In situations like this, the signal entering the siding from the south is usually yellow because of the train approaching the block before the tunnel. Both trains should have seen yellow and slowed down two miles before the collision. Since the commuter did not derail at the end of the siding indicates that it was not set for the freight to enter the siding. If that is the case, both trains should have seen red signals.

[rogruth]

Hmmmm,a real mess.

I'm sure it will be awhile before we hear the official investigation results.

[hev52]

Your gonna hear so much stuff of what happen. Over on TO now there sayin' maybe the sun was involved. Blinding his vision ..................................



hev

[hev52]

Daisy.....................looks like no more crab. Dirt man is starting a new business.................................












hev

[webenda]

Your gonna hear so much stuff of what happen. Over on TO now there sayin' maybe the sun was involved. Blinding his vision ..................................



hev

Heading due north?

Other than the sun comment, the discussion on TO seems to be intelligent.
I think I will join that site so that I can view their photos.

[jperrine6]

Yes its easy to second guess what happened, but wait until the investigating is over.

G O S T E E L E R S !

Jim

[Water Man]

Cat in a Bar



A guy walks into a bar in Cleveland wearing a Brown's jersey and carrying a cat that also has a Brown's jersey on with a little Brown's helmet on his head, too.
The guy says to the bartender, 'Can my cat and I watch the Browns-Steelers game here? My TV at home broke down and my cat and I always watch the game together'.
The bartender replies, 'Normally, cats wouldn't be allowed In the bar, but it's not very busy in here right now, so you and the cat can have a seat at the end of the bar. But, if there's any trouble with you or the cat, I'll have to ask you to leave.'
The guy agrees, and he and his cat start watching the game. Pretty soon Cleveland manages to kick a field goal and the excited cat jumps up on the bar, walks all the way down and gives everyone a high five.
The bartender says, 'Hey, that's pretty cool! What does he do for a touchdown?'
The guys answers, 'I don't know, I've only had him for 3 years.'

Kurt

[jperrine6]

Pretty cool

G O S T E E L E R S !

Jim

[webenda]

That was funny Kurt.

The Browns won 33-13 against the Steelers on October 5, 2003. That was a 20 point lead. Since then: -7, -11, -14, -13, -41, -4, -20, -27, -3, -4.