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Re: Seen in Print

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:30 am

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robert. wrote:No. A dog’s natural gag reflex will kick in. It will stop biting instantly.


Very few individuals possess the presence of mind to think of such and act while the dog is attacking and biting.



We do now! I would have gone for the eyes or something similar that should stop the attack.


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Re: Seen in Print

Postby robert. » Thu Mar 18, 2021 12:38 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
robert. wrote:No. A dog’s natural gag reflex will kick in. It will stop biting instantly.


Very few individuals possess the presence of mind to think of such and act while the dog is attacking and biting.

It’s something from a self defense class I took. We had a foam dog to practice on. Practice and real life are two different things. Going for the eyes is no good. I blind dog will still bite. Pulling your arm from a dog’s mouth is no good. His teeth will not allow for the removal of food. You need him to release. With a dog gagging its your only chance
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby rogruth » Thu Mar 18, 2021 4:08 pm

up148 wrote:
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robert. wrote:No. A dog’s natural gag reflex will kick in. It will stop biting instantly.


Very few individuals possess the presence of mind to think of such and act while the dog is attacking and biting.



We do now! I would have gone for the eyes or something similar that should stop the attack.

Have you actually done any of these?
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Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:41 pm

That's why every time I go for my suburban neighborhood 2-3mi walks, I always carry my army-issue shoulder bag full of defensive weaponry.

I'm pretty sure I could not gouge a dog's eye(s) out , even in defense of a child , or anybody, for that matter. But I sure am prepared to spray a caustic substance , blind it with spray paint , club a head or body with a flat pry bar, with all the force I could have in me, or cut a throat if I really had to, or stab a chest with my Bowie knife, in defense.

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Re: Seen in Print

Postby robert. » Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:22 am

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:That's why every time I go for my suburban neighborhood 2-3mi walks, I always carry my army-issue shoulder bag full of defensive weaponry.

I'm pretty sure I could not gouge a dog's eye(s) out , even in defense of a child , or anybody, for that matter. But I sure am prepared to spray a caustic substance , blind it with spray paint , club a head or body with a flat pry bar, with all the force I could have in me, or cut a throat if I really had to, or stab a chest with my Bowie knife, in defense.

Not many of those items are legal on the streets of NJ. A caustic substance, Bowie knife and a flat pry bar show intent. intent to car jack steal from somebody. Maybe a car jacking? Pry open their trunk?
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Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:25 am

I'll take the chance that my reputation makes me the understood exception. Plus, I have absolutely no intention of walking around ready to sacrifice any part(s) of my body to a mental-case dog running at-will or amuck.

Plus, we have an ever-increasing population of coyote marauding the area, too, using wooded areas and a local river as their homes and travel path . A number of attacks and stallings by them upon women walking children have occurred.

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Re: Seen in Print

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:15 am

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MurphOnMillerAve wrote:That's why every time I go for my suburban neighborhood 2-3mi walks, I always carry my army-issue shoulder bag full of defensive weaponry.

I'm pretty sure I could not gouge a dog's eye(s) out , even in defense of a child , or anybody, for that matter. But I sure am prepared to spray a caustic substance , blind it with spray paint , club a head or body with a flat pry bar, with all the force I could have in me, or cut a throat if I really had to, or stab a chest with my Bowie knife, in defense.

Not many of those items are legal on the streets of NJ. A caustic substance, Bowie knife and a flat pry bar show intent. intent to car jack steal from somebody. Maybe a car jacking? Pry open their trunk?


Indeed. Going about armed may come back to be problematic.

Odds of your getting stuff out of your bag in time also seem low......most attacks are surprise and unexpected.
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:17 am

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Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:26 am

So, what is your positive, practical , and helpful suggestion for an alternative. ? Hum?

Should i just stand there and say, "Oh please Mr. Evil Pitt-bull, don't rip off and take my balls home with you." ?

Or..."Hi, Mr coyote, on vacation ? Have a nice day, sweetie."

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Postby rogruth » Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:36 am

You probably need to treat them the same as a person and remember what ever you do you will probably get hurt and you will get sued.
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:46 am

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:So, what is your positive, practical , and helpful suggestion for an alternative. ? Hum?

Should i just stand there and say, "Oh please Mr. Evil Pitt-bull, don't rip off and take my balls home with you." ?

Or..."Hi, Mr coyote, on vacation ? Have a nice day, sweetie."


I don't have one. But getting arrested for carrying a concealed illegal weapon is not going to be helpful either.

Best suggestion is to not put yourself in a vulnerable situation and to avoid those times of day when predators are highly mobile.

We have the same species running about here and I know we have our share at my place in PA (was there Wed., btw...), but minimizing personal stupidity is generally a good step taken first.
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:47 am

rogruth wrote:You probably need to treat them the same as a person and remember what ever you do you will probably get hurt and you will get sued.

Well, so far, over the years, the unleashed, loose dogs that have come up to me have responded to a pleasant voice and greeting.

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Re: Seen in Print

Postby up148 » Fri Mar 19, 2021 9:36 am

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:
rogruth wrote:You probably need to treat them the same as a person and remember what ever you do you will probably get hurt and you will get sued.

Well, so far, over the years, the unleashed, loose dogs that have come up to me have responded to a pleasant voice and greeting.



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Re: Seen in Print

Postby robert. » Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:00 am

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:So, what is your positive, practical , and helpful suggestion for an alternative. ? Hum?

Should i just stand there and say, "Oh please Mr. Evil Pitt-bull, don't rip off and take my balls home with you." ?

Or..."Hi, Mr coyote, on vacation ? Have a nice day, sweetie."

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