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Postby J. S. Bach » Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:24 pm

Very nice.

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Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:43 am

Thanks!

One tries and I was not 100% this car was going to end up as a keeper, but I think it will stay here.

Next one up will be available in Strasburg (if that happens....).
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Postby robert. » Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:29 am

When is Strasburg? every possible trade show i could do. was canceled with no new dates. I will say " all the show i do are multi national groups. that travel in from all over the world." Most of the centers that host these shows are now rented through May. They are on hold by the fema. fema rents these centers for overflow hospital rooms. 2 shows are held in an Armory. we were told by the promoter "they wont return in 2021 at all." those 2 venues will most likely be scratched from the lineup.
You may need to have these small shows in an outdoor setting.
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Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:55 am

robert. wrote:When is Strasburg? every possible trade show i could do. was canceled with no new dates. I will say " all the show i do are multi national groups. that travel in from all over the world." Most of the centers that host these shows are now rented through May. They are on hold by the fema. fema rents these centers for overflow hospital rooms. 2 shows are held in an Armory. we were told by the promoter "they wont return in 2021 at all." those 2 venues will most likely be scratched from the lineup.
You may need to have these small shows in an outdoor setting.


They did hold Strasburg in Oct this year; firehall with the trucks out and the doors front & back open.

April in 2021.
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Postby healey36 » Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:09 pm

hmmm...what's the odds there's a York TCA meet in April 2021...I'm thinking nil.

Outstanding job on the car...presume it was quite rough to start.

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Re: The Modelers Thread

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:24 pm

healey36 wrote:hmmm...what's the odds there's a York TCA meet in April 2021...I'm thinking nil.


Tend to agree.

Outstanding job on the car...presume it was quite rough to start.


Thanks! It's still a bit rough - "weathered", :wink: :wink: But the roof is now attached - scribed paper over wood - some paint, glues, some underbody repairs, new brakewheel/staff/ratchet & pawl, and it's good for a few more years.

Have to pull the kits I have for this car and consider moving them up into the active queue.
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Postby robert. » Fri Jan 01, 2021 10:06 am

I'm tossing my hat into the ring with a quality craft prr cabin car. from here on out referred to a box of sticks with bad directions. Should i use CA. or Elmer's wood Glue ? I have assembled a few wood buildings. They all went together nicely. I see this cabin car as the lady that backed into an airplane propeller(dis ast her) :lol:
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Postby healey36 » Fri Jan 01, 2021 10:15 am

When assembling bits of wood and paper, I've grown enamored with using plain ol' Titebond. Seems to work better than common white glue. Depending on the size and intricacy, I may cut it slightly with a bit of water, but not much. It leaves a good, strong joint. I've had a few problems trying to use CA on porous surfaces, even in the gel formula. Another favorite is Loctite GO2, but that seems to have a short shelf-life. The bottle either dries up or clogs up, long before it's used up.

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Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Jan 01, 2021 10:31 am

quality craft prr cabin car.


Which one? These can be built up to rival brass.

healey36 wrote:When assembling bits of wood and paper, I've grown enamored with using plain ol' Titebond.


Good for every wood surface other than end grain or for attaching the metal castings. End grain; Goo on the porous surface and CA on the non-porous surface and get them together the 1st right.
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Postby robert. » Fri Jan 01, 2021 10:44 am

i believe they can rival brass. when i looked through the box. i was thinking. why would you want a brass model to simulate wood? It's an n6a. by Weaver. I may buy a few detail parts for it. I'm not sure about making grabs from the florist wire they gave me.
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Re: The Modelers Thread

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Jan 01, 2021 10:48 am

robert. wrote:i believe they can rival brass. when i looked through the box. i was thinking. why would you want a brass model to simulate wood? It's an n6a. by Weaver. I may buy a few detail parts for it. I'm not sure about making grabs from the florist wire they gave me.


Invest in some upgrades parts like grabs and other parts from PSC
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Re: The Modelers Thread

Postby gregj410 » Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:19 pm

healey36 wrote:When assembling bits of wood and paper, I've grown enamored with using plain ol' Titebond. Seems to work better than common white glue. Depending on the size and intricacy, I may cut it slightly with a bit of water, but not much. It leaves a good, strong joint. I've had a few problems trying to use CA on porous surfaces, even in the gel formula. Another favorite is Loctite GO2, but that seems to have a short shelf-life. The bottle either dries up or clogs up, long before it's used up.


Couldn’t agree more. Other than the open time I’ve moved away from the CA for wood bonding. Shelf life is to short for the amount you end up using. I’ve thrown out more than I’ve ever used.

and get them together the 1st right.


Now that’s the real trick, which rarely happens in my world. Although I’ve discovered a Founders CBS steadies the hands. Nice reefer btw!

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Re: The Modelers Thread

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:50 pm

gregj410 wrote:Couldn’t agree more. Other than the open time I’ve moved away from the CA for wood bonding. Shelf life is to short for the amount you end up using. I’ve thrown out more than I’ve ever used.


I've not tossed out a bottle in many years -- proper storage is key and what's accepted as such for CA is largely mythological

and get them together the 1st right.


Now that’s the real trick, which rarely happens in my world. Although I’ve discovered a Founders CBS steadies the hands. Nice reefer btw!


Does take steady hands, tweezers, hemostats, etc.......and some Founders CBS would be nice, but that's under lock & key claimed by my better half; I have to settle for just KBS, :wink: :wink:

Reefer was a salvage yard exercise, but I think a keeper this time; most salvage yard exercises end up "For Sale" like the next 2 will.
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Re: The Modelers Thread

Postby healey36 » Fri Jan 01, 2021 1:55 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:I've not tossed out a bottle in many years -- proper storage is key and what's accepted as such for CA is largely mythological

So what is the proper storage method for CA? Someone told me to store it in the fridge...I'm guessing that's mythological.

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Re: The Modelers Thread

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:30 pm

healey36 wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:I've not tossed out a bottle in many years -- proper storage is key and what's accepted as such for CA is largely mythological

So what is the proper storage method for CA? Someone told me to store it in the fridge...I'm guessing that's mythological.


Gee, don't read my column in OST, do you, :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Fridge will slow down self polymerization of unopened CA, but once opened the cooling/thawing to room temp condenses moisture and moisture is a catalyst for triggering CA polymerization.

Best storage is at room temp in a very tight desiccator with good desiccant - not those useless silica packs - those are crap. Get some real quality stuff - Drierite -- get it with color indicator in it. I've stored open CA using this for several years. My workshop is also very dry. I leave the CA open with a micro applicator tip on it on my bench and it lasts until I can't get the last drop out.
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