For Murph re: Bear Interactions

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Sad. Perhaps inevitable, but, nonetheless , possessed of sadness.

Yet, all three hunters in that photo were prepared to kill.

Two for sport and/or profit,
One for survival.

Excellent point.

[HONDO74]

Looking at the firearms in the picture I would guess it was taken in the late 1890s to early 1900s. Could have been survival for all of them. For the 2 hunters the bear skin could provide a supplemental income and the bear meat to eat.

Old Time Duck Hunting on Long Island
http://longislandgenealogy.com/Wireless ... nting.html

Long Island is located on the eastern flyway for waterfowl. Many Long Island hunters supplemented their often-meager income by market gunning. Hunting ducks for fancy New York restaurants was just one way to survive. This took place from around 1840 until 1918 when the new conservation law went into effect preventing the practice of market gunning. At the turn of the nineteenth century, all first class hotels and restaurants served game dinners. From the 1840s until the law changed in 1918 market gunners supplied their tables with wild birds.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Looking at the firearms in the picture I would guess it was taken in the late 1890s to early 1900s. Could have been survival for all of them. For the 2 hunters the bear skin could provide a supplemental income and the bear meat to eat.

That was my thought as well here - sport is one thing, but food on the table is another.

[MYmoo]

Looking at the firearms in the picture I would guess it was taken in the late 1890s to early 1900s. Could have been survival for all of them. For the 2 hunters the bear skin could provide a supplemental income and the bear meat to eat.

That was my thought as well here - sport is one thing, but food on the table is another.

Agreed,
except that...
"...food on the table..." normally doesn't include a staged "trophy photo"...
...and "sport" doesn't include the bear.

Anyone else remember Buffalo Bill's payfor trainrides to go bison hunting?
"If you got the money, honey, I got the time..."

[MurphOnMillerAve]

...Old Time Duck Hunting on Long Island
http://longislandgenealogy.com/Wireless ... nting.html

Long Island is located on the eastern flyway for waterfowl. Many Long Island hunters supplemented their often-meager income by market gunning. Hunting ducks for fancy New York restaurants was just one way to survive....At the turn of the nineteenth century, all first class hotels and restaurants served game dinners. ...market gunners supplied their tables with wild birds.

For years, back in the 70's, I patronized a restaurant, The Hindenburg, on the Upper East Side, in NYC, because it specifically offered on its menu, "Roasted Long Island Duck." What was particularly attractive about this menu item was that they knew how to prepare the duck properly, which meant roasting it on a rotisserie/spit, letting the fat drip away from the bird, rather than cooking it in its own fat, and then adding a gooey sweet sauce to hide the fatty taste. I didn't know of that technique before eating at that restaurant for the first time. They explained it to me, and I sure got the point on the first such dinner, because I had particularly noticed and appreciated the crisp skin, rather than having to eat any fatty, gelatinous layer of fat under a rubbery skin.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Looking at the firearms in the picture I would guess it was taken in the late 1890s to early 1900s. Could have been survival for all of them. For the 2 hunters the bear skin could provide a supplemental income and the bear meat to eat.

That was my thought as well here - sport is one thing, but food on the table is another.

Agreed,
except that...
"...food on the table..." normally doesn't include a staged "trophy photo"...

Actually, it can and does, and the mounted deer heads at my home in PA were left from the deer that were eaten.

Anyone else remember Buffalo Bill's payfor trainrides to go bison hunting?[/quote]

Pre-dates me slightly.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

...Old Time Duck Hunting on Long Island
http://longislandgenealogy.com/Wireless ... nting.html

Long Island is located on the eastern flyway for waterfowl. Many Long Island hunters supplemented their often-meager income by market gunning. Hunting ducks for fancy New York restaurants was just one way to survive....At the turn of the nineteenth century, all first class hotels and restaurants served game dinners. ...market gunners supplied their tables with wild birds.

For years, back in the 70's, I patronized a restaurant, The Hindenburg, on the Upper East Side, in NYC, because it specifically offered on its menu, "Roasted Long Island Duck." What was particularly attractive about this menu item was that they knew how to prepare the duck properly, which meant roasting it on a rotisserie/spit, letting the fat drip away from the bird, rather than cooking it in its own fat, and then adding a gooey sweet sauce to hide the fatty taste. I didn't know of that technique before eating at that restaurant for the first time. They explained it to me, and I sure got the point on the first such dinner, because I had particularly noticed and appreciated the crisp skin, rather than having to eat any fatty, gelatinous layer of fat under a rubbery skin.

There are many ways to cook duck (and goose) properly. There are also a plethora of methods for getting them all wrong.

[John Webster]

I believe the market hunting law was passed in recognition that that was what drove the passenger pigeon to extinction.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

The latest wildlife intrusions around here, yesterday:
+ Wyckoff: A coyote attacked and killed and took a Chihuahua as it walked with its owner, just 10' from her.
+ Vernon: a bobcat strolled through yards and driveways, during the early morning.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

The latest wildlife intrusions around here, yesterday:
+ Wyckoff: A coyote attacked and killed and took a Chihuahua as it walked with its owner, just 10' from her.
+ Vernon: a bobcat strolled through yards and driveways, during the early morning.

Ok.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

The latest wildlife intrusions around here, yesterday:
+ Wyckoff: A coyote attacked and killed and took a Chihuahua as it walked with its owner, just 10' from her.
+ Vernon: a bobcat strolled through yards and driveways, during the early morning.

Ok.

Such reports keep me perky while I am on my early morning walks thru da hood. It's pro'ly jus' a matter of time before me first encounter.
Just sharing. That's okay, right?

[Rufus T. Firefly]

The latest wildlife intrusions around here, yesterday:
+ Wyckoff: A coyote attacked and killed and took a Chihuahua as it walked with its owner, just 10' from her.
+ Vernon: a bobcat strolled through yards and driveways, during the early morning.

Ok.

Such reports keep me perky while I am on my early morning walks thru da hood. It's pro'ly jus' a matter of time before me first encounter.
Just sharing. That's okay, right?

Unless you are trolling bait, e.g., a chihuahua, odds are very good you'll not see most predators.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Good point. Ill let myself believe that, esp. since I do not walk baby-carriages either.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Good point. Ill let myself believe that, esp. since I do not walk baby-carriages either.

Good idea. No sense in encouraging things.

[HONDO74]

Good point. Ill let myself believe that, esp. since I do not walk baby-carriages either.

But if you strolled with a baby carriage you could store a vast array of weapons to protect yourself from the predators.