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ACME

Postby webenda » Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:07 pm

webenda wrote:
ScaleCraft wrote:https://www.ebay.com/itm/335983412247

Now, ya gotta dig a bit to see this is Trainz. Small print and all.
Who is Acme, and why did they build 225E/675 motor blocks?
Most of the usable bits are gone......title says "not working", yet product description says:
Condition: Excellent (C-7)
Operational Status: Functional

How can these be not working AND functional?

Whole lotta listings for the Acme outfit. Dozens and dozens.

Is that the new name for Trainz?

Dave,

The chassis is not working in that if you put it on the track, it will not run.
If you are replacing an old chassis with one of these new chassis, the new chassis will run after you install all the parts from the old motor (like the brush holder and brushes) onto the new chassis.

I did a search for Acme Steam Motor Chassis and ran into a quagmire of companies named Acme.

The name Acme became popular for businesses by the 1920s, when alphabetized business telephone directories such as the Yellow Pages began to be widespread. There were a flood of businesses named Acme (some of these still survive[1]). For example, early Sears catalogs contained many products with the "Acme" trademark, including anvils, which are frequently used in Warner Bros. cartoons.

So, I asked Trainz, "I have a question about the ACME company as in, 'Acme 1505L12 Steam Motor Chassis." Can you give me any information about ACME? I tried to find ACME Company on Google Search. It seems to be the most used company name ever. I am not a robot!"
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Re: ACME

Postby webenda » Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:11 pm

Trainz Response:

Trainz.com Customer Service
10:04 AM (11 hours ago)
to me

Dear Wayne,

Thanks for reaching out. Unfortunately, we do not know a lot about ACME trains, but below is a link to their site.

https://www.acmetreni.it/en/

Please let us know if we can help you further.

In Your Service,

Frankie
Customer Service
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Re: ACME

Postby webenda » Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:28 pm

OK... the ACME in question is,
Anonima Costruzioni Modellistiche Esatte in Italian and
Anonymous Exact Model Constructions in English.
(A.C.M.E.)

Anonima Costruzioni Modellistiche Esatte (ACME) was founded in August 2001 by Alessandro Buonopane and Guido Sala. Their participation in the Hobby Model Expo in Novegro in September of that year marked the official launch of their business, with the delivery of their first model, an FS T2s sleeping car in H0 scale, produced in China in collaboration with Heris.

ACME distinguished itself by producing models of Italian rolling stock aimed at a niche market of collectors passionate about faithful scale reproductions. At the time, the Italian market was dominated by Lima-Rivarossi, but the latter's acquisition by foreign groups led to a decline in the attention paid to models of Italian rolling stock, creating an opportunity for ACME.

In short, ACME's history is that of a company that successfully addressed a specific market need, offering high-quality, historically accurate models for Italian model railway enthusiasts.
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Re: ACME

Postby ScaleCraft » Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:30 pm

Horse manure. Dozens of Trainz listings say "acme", some Lionel motors, some Lionel engines.
Like Trainz wanted their listing alphabetically at the top.
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Re: ACME

Postby ScaleCraft » Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:34 pm

I re-iterate:
The original link is to a RARE, VINTAGE, ORIGINAL 80-plus year old 225E motor block.
NOT some eye-talean company making H0 Italian models.
Read the link.

webenda wrote:OK... the ACME in question is,
Anonima Costruzioni Modellistiche Esatte in Italian and
Anonymous Exact Model Constructions in English.
(A.C.M.E.)

Anonima Costruzioni Modellistiche Esatte (ACME) was founded in August 2001 by Alessandro Buonopane and Guido Sala. Their participation in the Hobby Model Expo in Novegro in September of that year marked the official launch of their business, with the delivery of their first model, an FS T2s sleeping car in H0 scale, produced in China in collaboration with Heris.

ACME distinguished itself by producing models of Italian rolling stock aimed at a niche market of collectors passionate about faithful scale reproductions. At the time, the Italian market was dominated by Lima-Rivarossi, but the latter's acquisition by foreign groups led to a decline in the attention paid to models of Italian rolling stock, creating an opportunity for ACME.

In short, ACME's history is that of a company that successfully addressed a specific market need, offering high-quality, historically accurate models for Italian model railway enthusiasts.
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Re: ACME

Postby ScaleCraft » Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:43 pm

Acme 1505L12 Steam Motor Chassis Assortment - Not Working (Set of 4)

That's what the title is, Right under that is Trainz, and their logo.
Scroll down and see the dozen Trainz/Acme listings.

Here's the listing:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/335983412247

Tell me what your OS and browser says.
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Re: ACME

Postby webenda » Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:52 pm

ACME ADDRESS

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ACME LOGO
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ACME AT MODEL TRAIN SHOW
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Re: ACME

Postby ScaleCraft » Fri Jul 11, 2025 12:21 am

I re-iterate. Trainz response is hogwash. ACME is not making 80-year-old used motor blocks.
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Re: ACME

Postby webenda » Fri Jul 11, 2025 7:53 am

ScaleCraft wrote:I re-iterate. Trainz response is hogwash. ACME is not making 80-year-old used motor blocks.

I agree with your statement, "ACME is not making 80-year-old used motor blocks." I think ACME just sold their junk pile of old Lionel Steam Motor Chassis to Trainz.

I trust Trainz's answer. ACME has a parts division, URL: https://www.acmericambi.it/en/
The ACME parts website is currently under development, so I couldn't search to see if any Lionel parts are still available from ACME.
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Re: ACME

Postby Norton » Fri Jul 11, 2025 8:07 am

You guys tallking about the same ACME?

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Re: ACME

Postby ScaleCraft » Fri Jul 11, 2025 12:39 pm

webenda wrote:
ScaleCraft wrote:I re-iterate. Trainz response is hogwash. ACME is not making 80-year-old used motor blocks.

I agree with your statement, "ACME is not making 80-year-old used motor blocks." I think ACME just sold their junk pile of old Lionel Steam Motor Chassis to Trainz.

I trust Trainz's answer. ACME has a parts division, URL: https://www.acmericambi.it/en/
The ACME parts website is currently under development, so I couldn't search to see if any Lionel parts are still available from ACME.


So let me get my chemo-brain around this.
Somehow, these eye-tally-ans bought up boxes and boxes of old motor blocks, US made of course, had them shipped to eeeeeeeeeetaleeeeeeeeeeee where they languished in a shed for all these years until they shipped them to Trainz to list and sell.
Right.
Uh-huh.
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Re: ACME

Postby webenda » Fri Jul 11, 2025 9:10 pm

ScaleCraft wrote:Right.
Uh-huh.


Lionel, LLC, the model train manufacturer, has a history connected to Italy. Lionel's founder, Joshua Lionel Cowen, had an Italian immigrant business partner named Mario Caruso. Caruso later established a company in Italy called La Precisa, which produced some of Lionel's prewar products and three-rail track.

Reference:
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1983/08/18 ... 430027200/
https://www.binnsroad.co.uk/railways/societa/index.html

"The passion of those who started as a child playing with model trains is something we share in producing and sharing with all model railway enthusiasts our range of models and books."
--Alessandro Buonopane and Guido Sala, the founders of Anonima Costruzioni Modellistiche Esatte (ACME).

The ACME motor blocks sold by Trainz were Made in Italy.
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Re: ACME

Postby ScaleCraft » Fri Jul 11, 2025 9:34 pm

Tooling for locomotives, like metal parts.
I don't know why you can't see, those motor blocks are rode hard and put away wet. Missing brushplates, armature supports, commutators filthy, wheels filthy, oily and greasy.
Left over junk taken out of scrapped locos. NOT new stuff made in Italy that none of your links say they ever built.
Never heard anyone claim those blocks were Italian, especially with Mussolini taking over long before we got involved.
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Re: ACME

Postby webenda » Fri Jul 11, 2025 11:06 pm

Norton wrote:You guys tallking about the same ACME?
Pete

Maybe.
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Re: ACME

Postby webenda » Fri Jul 11, 2025 11:08 pm

ScaleCraft wrote:Tooling for locomotives, like metal parts.
I don't know why you can't see, those motor blocks are rode hard and put away wet. Missing brushplates, armature supports, commutators filthy, wheels filthy, oily and greasy.
Left over junk taken out of scrapped locos. NOT new stuff made in Italy that none of your links say they ever built.
Never heard anyone claim those blocks were Italian, especially with Mussolini taking over long before we got involved.

Oh, I see,
Wayne wrote:If you are replacing an old chassis with one of these new chassis, the new chassis will run after you install all the parts from the old motor (like the brush holder and brushes) onto the new chassis.


I was thinking something like when I purchased a used car and the neighbor asked if I had a new car? I said yes because the old car was something new to me.

new
adjective
1. not existing before in my possession.

I apologize, Dave. My idioms do not always make sense.
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