Fair price for a prewar Lionel 225E

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Re: Fair price for a prewar Lionel 225E

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:28 pm

ScaleCraft wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:Probably a shill and you'll see it again next week..............

You never know. I may have to quote you on that...periodically.


Obviously my 55 gal drum of sarcasm did not translate well......

So.......

"You never know."

I will quote you on that.
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Re: Fair price for a prewar Lionel 225E

Postby ScaleCraft » Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:42 pm

I posted this in another thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idEJcisYv_4
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Re: Fair price for a prewar Lionel 225E

Postby healey36 » Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:46 pm

Shills are bad, but snipers are worse.

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Re: Fair price for a prewar Lionel 225E

Postby E7 » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:38 pm

healey36 wrote:Shills are bad, but snipers are worse.


Why would you say that? Shills are putting out fraudulent bids on behalf of the seller. A snipe is a legitimate bidding strategy. The sniper intends to buy the item, the shill does not. Obviously YOUR opinion, but I respectfully disagree.

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Re: Fair price for a prewar Lionel 225E

Postby healey36 » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:18 pm

The shill bidding and software-assisted sniping on eBay has grown too prevalent and, for me, tiresome. We have a couple of decent auction houses here in town that handle estate sales...that's more fun and there's no arbitrary time-limit that others can game.

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Re: Fair price for a prewar Lionel 225E

Postby E7 » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:59 pm

It's possible to snipe without software. I've done it many times. As for arbitrary time limits, everyone knows (or should know) when the auction is ending. As for the standard auction, that goes to the person with the most money, and there's NOTHING more boring than that. Takes a bit of skill to find stuff on the bay, so now and then you can steal one.....or at least win. It all boils down to they who bid the most wins. Doesn't matter about all the rest!

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Re: Fair price for a prewar Lionel 225E

Postby ScaleCraft » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:20 pm

E7 wrote: Takes a bit of skill to find stuff on the bay, so now and then you can steal one.....or at least win. It all boils down to they who bid the most wins. Doesn't matter about all the rest!

Rich

There is a problem with communication. Not too many folks "win" on evilbait. They're just first loser.
I think every one of the links I have posted have been for items A) horribly overpriced, or B) of such bad quality they need to be recycled.
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Re: Fair price for a prewar Lionel 225E

Postby healey36 » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:26 pm

Snipe away, mate...

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Re: Fair price for a prewar Lionel 225E

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:18 pm

ScaleCraft wrote:I think every one of the links I have posted have been for items A) horribly overpriced, or B) of such bad quality they need to be recycled.


That trolley lot you posted for me that started at $0.99 sold for US $56.02 :shock: I might have been interested if I could have gotten it delivered for $20. Was a bit of good potential play value building trailers....

Does sort of explain the bidding on the traction and trolley parts that I've been selling off, :wink: :wink:
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Re: Fair price for a prewar Lionel 225E

Postby healey36 » Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:24 pm

I hate to say it, but It feels like a lot of the TCA members who typically have tables at York, trotting in the same overpriced prewar and PW stuff meet after meet, have turned to the on-line auction sites trying to move their shabby, over-priced bits. I always figured they didn’t sell that much stuff at York, it being more of a social event in the member halls. Maybe I’m wrong.

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Re: Fair price for a prewar Lionel 225E

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:29 pm

healey36 wrote:I hate to say it, but It feels like a lot of the TCA members who typically have tables at York, trotting in the same overpriced prewar and PW stuff meet after meet, have turned to the on-line auction sites trying to move their shabby, over-priced bits. I always figured they didn’t sell that much stuff at York, it being more of a social event in the member halls. Maybe I’m wrong.


See the same thing with the 2 rail meets and shows -- many guys with the same grossly overpriced stuff on their tables year after year.
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Re: Fair price for a prewar Lionel 225E

Postby E7 » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:28 pm

healey36 wrote:I hate to say it, but It feels like a lot of the TCA members who typically have tables at York, trotting in the same overpriced prewar and PW stuff meet after meet, have turned to the on-line auction sites trying to move their shabby, over-priced bits. I always figured they didn’t sell that much stuff at York, it being more of a social event in the member halls. Maybe I’m wrong.


Nothing wrong with expressing your honest opinion. I haven't set foot on the fairgrounds in quite a while, but there was always some stuff there that i thought looked pretty dodgey, and I'm guessing it increased in numbers as the years rolled by. Basic human nature to try and hold onto nicer things and exorcise the junk (errrrr collectibles!) :mrgreen:

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Re: Fair price for a prewar Lionel 225E

Postby v8vega » Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:45 am

As I understand sniping it's bidding a little more than the high bid at the last second so no one has time to up the bid. I believe it's baloney, I put in my highest bid and eBay automatically and instantly raises my bid the second someone else ups the bid up to my max amount. You ain't going to beat eBay.

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Re: Fair price for a prewar Lionel 225E

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:40 am

Sniping is what folks that are too cheap to leave a decent bid have to complain about.............also known as underbidders.
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Re: Fair price for a prewar Lionel 225E

Postby healey36 » Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:44 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:Sniping is what folks that are too cheap to leave a decent bid have to complain about.............also known as underbidders.
I'll put in my max bid days before it ends, then it will run right up to but frequently stop just shy of my maximum. Then someone who has never bid on the item swoops in one nano-second before the close to pick it off. It's almost like they...

Oy, I know the rules - I need to stop whining.


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