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Postby Dennis Holler » Tue Jan 05, 2021 12:09 pm

I think I got the Schlitz sister to that Blatz car!. Got a question, is there any value in possibly clear coating the sides to protect them, or would that likely cause more issues down the road?
Also, on mine, the ends are solid blocks with out scribing, what do you use to scribe these guys? I have used an exacto razer saw in the past because it was cutting cross grain but that is iffy....
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Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Jan 05, 2021 12:55 pm

Dennis Holler wrote:I think I got the Schlitz sister to that Blatz car!. Got a question, is there any value in possibly clear coating the sides to protect them, or would that likely cause more issues down the road?


When the weather permits, I'll take this and ~10 other cars outside to paint and then finish with Rustoleum Clear Matte and seal them all.

Also, on mine, the ends are solid blocks with out scribing, what do you use to scribe these guys? I have used an exacto razer saw in the past because it was cutting cross grain but that is iffy....


Scribe? I just skin them with some 1/32" thick scribed siding.
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Re: The Modelers Thread

Postby Dennis Holler » Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:44 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
Dennis Holler wrote:I think I got the Schlitz sister to that Blatz car!. Got a question, is there any value in possibly clear coating the sides to protect them, or would that likely cause more issues down the road?


When the weather permits, I'll take this and ~10 other cars outside to paint and then finish with Rustoleum Clear Matte and seal them all.

Also, on mine, the ends are solid blocks with out scribing, what do you use to scribe these guys? I have used an exacto razer saw in the past because it was cutting cross grain but that is iffy....


Scribe? I just skin them with some 1/32" thick scribed siding.


Sounds good Rustoleum it is! May have to acquire some 1/32 scribed siding at some point but may be a cheapo this time or the build will likely stall indefinitely!
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Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Jan 05, 2021 3:31 pm

Dennis Holler wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
Dennis Holler wrote:I think I got the Schlitz sister to that Blatz car!. Got a question, is there any value in possibly clear coating the sides to protect them, or would that likely cause more issues down the road?


When the weather permits, I'll take this and ~10 other cars outside to paint and then finish with Rustoleum Clear Matte and seal them all.

Also, on mine, the ends are solid blocks with out scribing, what do you use to scribe these guys? I have used an exacto razer saw in the past because it was cutting cross grain but that is iffy....


Scribe? I just skin them with some 1/32" thick scribed siding.


Sounds good Rustoleum it is! May have to acquire some 1/32 scribed siding at some point but may be a cheapo this time or the build will likely stall indefinitely!


Put it on lightly! And, with good ventilation; my painting and finishing stage is beginning to look like a long line and will get longer until we get good weather for painting outdoors.

Drop me a note as to what scribing width spacing you need and rough oversize dimensions. If you are willing to put up with the USPS diverting it to Upper Lower Eastern North Dakota at Hoople for 3 weeks, I might have some to send you.
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Postby healey36 » Tue Jan 05, 2021 8:16 pm

Rufus - that Pennsylvania gondola, would it have had a drop out bottom? I’ve heard of gondolas that could be unloaded from the underside, but have never seen one.

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Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Jan 05, 2021 8:39 pm

healey36 wrote:Rufus - that Pennsylvania gondola, would it have had a drop out bottom? I’ve heard of gondolas that could be unloaded from the underside, but have never seen one.


Yes; drop bottom car. Hart-Rogers ballast car.

Somewhere I have some more modern drop bottom gons........maybe......but maybe I sold them all.
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Postby robert. » Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:14 am

I have a chicken and an egg question. How do i keep paint of the window glazing? I'm not this far along yet. I'm having a George Carlin moment while pondering window glazing. if i glaze before paint. I'll end up painting the glazing. If i assemble and paint. I'll never get it disassembled to glue in glazing.
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Postby gregj410 » Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:21 am

robert. wrote:I have a chicken and an egg question. How do i keep paint of the window glazing? I'm not this far along yet. I'm having a George Carlin moment while pondering window glazing. if i glaze before paint. I'll end up painting the glazing. If i assemble and paint. I'll never get it disassembled to glue in glazing.



Ive been there more than once :lol: I paint the sashes and then apply the glazing once they are dry.

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Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:33 am

gregj410 wrote:
robert. wrote:I have a chicken and an egg question. How do i keep paint of the window glazing? I'm not this far along yet. I'm having a George Carlin moment while pondering window glazing. if i glaze before paint. I'll end up painting the glazing. If i assemble and paint. I'll never get it disassembled to glue in glazing.



Ive been there more than once :lol: I paint the sashes and then apply the glazing once they are dry.


Yes. Paint the window castings 1st; glaze painted window castings; install glazed painted window castings into pre-painted structure or car.
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Postby robert. » Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:34 pm

I'll need to dicth the can of spray paint and go with a brush on.
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Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:43 pm

robert. wrote:I'll need to dicth the can of spray paint and go with a brush on.


Why? I've done windows and doors castings with a rattle can and it works fine. Painting them by hand is only less tedious than installing the glazing, :wink: :wink:

Only reason not to use a rattle can here is that the smell in the house is a problem.
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Re: The Modelers Thread

Postby robert. » Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:45 pm

Some point i'll need to brush paint parts. If i have the window sashes and glaze installed. When i look at the half assembled parts. I'm not seeing it. I have yet to have that A Ha moment. What was i thinking? In my mind I'm over complicating assemble/paint of the ends
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Re: The Modelers Thread

Postby gregj410 » Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:42 pm

With so many variety of colors in rattle cans now they’ve almost become my go to for things like window sashes.
Rustoleum has a new line called Chalked. My go to lately is the chiffon cream. Might be worth a look.

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Re: The Modelers Thread

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:13 am

gregj410 wrote:Rustoleum has a new line called Chalked.


Not seen those as yet but then I don't go out much either. I do use several of the flat primers.

What's the finish of this line look like when dry?
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Re: The Modelers Thread

Postby gregj410 » Sat Jan 09, 2021 2:04 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
gregj410 wrote:Rustoleum has a new line called Chalked.


Not seen those as yet but then I don't go out much either. I do use several of the flat primers.

What's the finish of this line look like when dry?



Flat or I’d say even chalky looking which to me is even flatter


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