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Frederic Model Co. ???
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:16 am
by up148
Looks like an interesting kit. 2 different listing, one fresh and one with the frame assembled. Never heard of this company.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/O-SCALE-2-RAIL ... Sw7GpgENKy
Re: Frederic Model Co. ???
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:45 am
by Jay Criswell
Butch,
They sold Lobaugh kits repackaged with their branding. I don't know if they ever actually produced the kits or just kited remaining inventory. The sides were prepainted and look exactly like the original Lobaugh. Once built you can't tell the difference.
Jay
Re: Frederic Model Co. ???
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:57 am
by Rufus T. Firefly
That does explain why all the parts looked like Lobaugh parts,

Re: Frederic Model Co. ???
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:22 am
by up148
It looks like a nice kit. The one with the frame assembled, is missing the end sills and they might be in the two paper envelops, but might not and getting satisfaction from this seller could be hard.
He's the seller who embellishes condition, tells lies by omission, enhances the truth and builds up stories of "rare and hard to find" when it is not true......like the MG BB he's selling. He's appears to be nothing more than an estate scrounge and then unloads on EB for big profits.
Re: Frederic Model Co. ???
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:45 am
by E7
"Seller does not accept returns" tells you all you need to know.
Re: Frederic Model Co. ???
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:03 pm
by Rufus T. Firefly
up148 wrote:It looks like a nice kit. The one with the frame assembled, is missing the end sills and they might be in the two paper envelops, but might not and getting satisfaction from this seller could be hard.
Almost everything he's selling that's 2 rail is from the Neill estate auction that Stout handled last year. He's almost certainly working from whatever notes that Stephan left behind to identify stuff or just working from whatever is written on the ends of the boxes. Most right, some wrong, and some kit brands I've never heard of - lot of history passing by.........
Exacta pass car and traction kits the other night sold well! Zoomed right by me,

Re: Frederic Model Co. ???
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:07 pm
by up148
I'm wrong. This seller is not the same as the one selling the BB. Believe this seller is Keith Wiseman's company.
The BB seller isn't a train guy from looking at his other auctions, but he seems to start real high and then take best offer.
Re: Frederic Model Co. ???
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:08 pm
by Chris Webster
up148 wrote:Believe this seller is Keith Wiseman's company.
No, 108spopular is not Keith Wiseman.
This is Kieth Wiseman's ebay account:
WISEMAN MODEL SERVICES INC
Re: Frederic Model Co. ???
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:11 pm
by Rufus T. Firefly
up148 wrote:I'm wrong. This seller is not the same as the one selling the BB. Believe this seller is Keith Wiseman's company.
Wiseman left eBay at the beginning of the year. You might have seen the announcement/letter in OST,

Re: Frederic Model Co. ???
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:10 am
by up148
Yes, I remember reading that, I was only going on the fact both people show KY as their location. My bad.
Re: Frederic Model Co. ???
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:41 am
by Rufus T. Firefly
up148 wrote:Yes, I remember reading that, I was only going on the fact both people show KY as their location. My bad.
Nah..... There seems to be a Kentucky Collective of model train sellers,

Re: Frederic Model Co. ???
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 2:38 pm
by up148
I was watching to bid on one of these two models, but the prices rapidly exceeded my budget for a "maybe it's a good kit for me", so I passed. Kits seem to be enjoying a resurgence and price increase the past year.
Re: Frederic Model Co. ???
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 2:49 pm
by Rufus T. Firefly
up148 wrote:Kits seem to be enjoying a resurgence and price increase the past year.
Very, very few that I have bid on have come home here. Whether the buyers are building or collecting them is unknown.
Re: Frederic Model Co. ???
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:48 pm
by bob turner
Yippee! There is life here!
Re: Frederic Model Co. ???
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:49 am
by Rufus T. Firefly
bob turner wrote:Yippee! There is life here!
There might be more if just a few more would actually post anything or show any interest.
