LWS/ Penn-Erie U50 in pewter

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Re: Soldering pewter?

Postby bob turner » Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:16 pm

Yeah - it appears that the tower must be on an inner axle, and the motor mounted so it is fixed with respect to the body. Two motors will fit, but they will need to be tilted for clearance. A single motor could be dropped to drive all eight axles - but this beast needs two motors.

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Re: Soldering pewter?

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:08 am

bob turner wrote:Yeah - it appears that the tower must be on an inner axle, and the motor mounted so it is fixed with respect to the body. Two motors will fit, but they will need to be tilted for clearance. A single motor could be dropped to drive all eight axles - but this beast needs two motors.


Makes sense given wall thickness and weight.......of course you could just run it down hill, :wink: :wink:
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Re: Soldering pewter?

Postby up148 » Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:00 pm

bob turner wrote:Yes, but if I decide to body mount the motor it could be lower. Another problem is the drop-down gearbox, which may have to go on an inner axle. Very little space inside.

By the by, one of those red "dependable transportation" decals fell apart, and I coated the other, but the film is now too thick. So looking for a pair of usable DEPENDABLE TRANSPORTATION decals in red.


Let me check on that Bob. I still have a wad of new Champion (and others) Union Pacific decals in a file drawer somewhere. I bought all I could find back in the 90's figuring they wouldn't be available some day. I must have 5-6 sets of Turbine decals I'll never use.

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Re: Soldering pewter?

Postby bob turner » Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:41 pm

Thanks. In the olden days I would just ask Jim Wilhite, and he would generate them by computer and an Alps printer.

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Re: Soldering pewter?

Postby up148 » Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:54 pm

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Bob if these will work I have several sets and you're welcome to one of them....Look to be in very good condition.....but you don't know until you try to put them on. :D Looking at my U50 book, they look correct, but not sure of the dimensions needed for the U50. Let me know it they'll work and if so, send me a PM with your mailing address.

Didn't put the ruler in the right place, but it looks like the word "transportation" is about 6 scale feet long.

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Re: Soldering pewter?

Postby bob turner » Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:51 pm

Those are they. I had the same thing, but they disintegrated into a thousand pieces. I sort of saved one with a layer of Microscale decal "save."
I'll shoot you an e-mail.

I am doing handrails, slowly. Had to order more 1/16" square tubing; this thing has a million uprights.

Stuck some power comments into Jay's thread. I am re-thinking power, and may set up another prototype this evening. I need to lay in a supply of aluminum bar - this thing is already so incredibly heavy that I am loathe to do the frame in brass. Only problem with aluminum is that I won't be able to solder it.

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Re: Soldering pewter?

Postby up148 » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:42 pm

Well Bob, PM me your mailing address and I'll get them sent off.

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Re: Soldering pewter?

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:22 pm

bob turner wrote:Only problem with aluminum is that I won't be able to solder it.


More JB Weld....
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The U50 in Pewter

Postby bob turner » Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:04 pm

here, with handrails. That crooked post in back is easy to fix - the base of the stanchions is held with flexible contact cement.

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Changing title?

Postby bob turner » Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:06 pm

So how do I change the title of the entire thread? I almost couldn't find this one!

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Re: Soldering pewter?

Postby chuck » Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:41 pm

So how do I change the title of the entire thread? I almost couldn't find this one!


You should be able to hit the edit button and then make changes in the "Subject" block.

BTW, That is an impressive drive train. Are the motors actually mounted/suspended from the shell and connected to the trucks via flex shaft or the motor attached to the span bolster and the shell is attached to the motor?
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LWS/Penn-Erie Cast GE U50

Postby R.K. Maroon » Sun Jul 04, 2021 4:11 pm

Anybody can change the title of a response to a thread (as I have done here), but I don't think it "sticks", meaning the next guy that replies will still see the original title. However, I believe if the originator of the thread (in this case Bob) goes back to the very first post and changes the title, it will stick. Either that or something else. :D
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Re: LWS/ Penn-Erie U50 in pewter

Postby chuck » Sun Jul 04, 2021 8:25 pm

but I don't think it "sticks"


Seems to be stuck now!
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Re: LWS/ Penn-Erie U50 in pewter

Postby bob turner » Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:45 pm

It did stick, just like Maroon said it would.

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Re: LWS/ Penn-Erie U50 in pewter

Postby up148 » Mon Jul 05, 2021 8:56 am

That is a really nice looking loco Bob. Being a "detail nut" the screening showing the blowers is just great. When were these kits offered...1960's, 70's, 80's ? All O scale diesel offerings seemed to go into high gear when the big brass importers (actually Tom Marsh OMI) started paying attention to O
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