Recent acquisitions & restoration projects.....

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Re: Recent acquisitions & restoration projects.....

Postby sarge » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:18 pm

Probably is what they had in mind, Terry.

My mind wanders off to just whacking the cupola off completely, then a wooden-beam passenger truck underneath. I see an 1890s-1930s mixed train in the East without much work...

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Re: Recent acquisitions & restoration projects.....

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:24 pm

aterry11 wrote:Stupid observation , but isn't that a Drovers caboose? looks well built.


Not at all - exactly what it is. One the best fitting roof bits that I have yet to handle which leads me to consider keeping it removable pending painting. It snaps down on both sides of both side doors very tightly and there are a few cross ribs under the roof that have to be aligned just so...

...whacking the cupola off completely, then a wooden-beam passenger truck underneath. I see an 1890s-1930s mixed train in the East without much work...


Could. All that holds the cupola on now is gravity, :wink: Have to do a few other "adjustments' to the roof bits. Would seem to waste a perfectly good cupola, :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Recent acquisitions & restoration projects.....

Postby J. S. Bach » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:43 pm

Please leave it alone; it looks too nice to futz with.

edit: Plus one day you may decide to sell it and I might be able to add a neat droves' cabin to my fleet. Even if it is PC green! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Image :mrgreen:

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Re: Recent acquisitions & restoration projects.....

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:23 pm

J. S. Bach wrote:Please leave it alone; it looks too nice to futz with.


Say no more!

edit: Plus one day you may decide to sell it and I might be able to add a neat droves' cabin to my fleet. Even if it is PC green! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Image :mrgreen:


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Just remember, with sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine....
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Re: Recent acquisitions & restoration projects.....

Postby aterry11 » Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:55 pm

When you say snaps is it like a Lefty Gateman car with two piece dress makers snaps to hold the roof on?

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Re: Recent acquisitions & restoration projects.....

Postby DeBruin » Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:38 am

Drover's cabooses and "mixed" cabooses are superficially similar though drovers typically have additional interior bunks and as a consequence usually no baggage doors, in that regard again this looks like a mixed "accommodation," actually in this case a lot like a branch line SLSW caboose in particular

but PC ..very clever

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Re: Recent acquisitions & restoration projects.....

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Feb 06, 2015 7:35 am

aterry11 wrote:When you say snaps is it like a Lefty Gateman car with two piece dress makers snaps to hold the roof on?


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

More like the roof sets down inside the sides and then also over the doors and into slots in the sides with a pressure fit. Sides are slightly spring inwards so there's pressure involved, too. Once in place, there's little play in the joinery. Snug as a bug in a rug. Guy who built this engineered it well.
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Re: Recent acquisitions & restoration projects.....

Postby aterry11 » Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:08 pm

The only drovers caboose I ever actually saw and it literally rotted from existence in my formative years, had baggage doors and stalls for the horses instead of baggage. It along with a lot of other oddball equipment used to sit in the ILC/ CNW north Omaha freight yard now also long gone. let me think on it and I'll remember the ranch name on the side. probably at 3 am a couple of days from now!

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Re: Recent acquisitions & restoration projects.....

Postby LS1Heli » Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:49 pm

I got these two things and I am trying to learn about them. A CLW ALCO PA and a PRR 50' auto carrier unknown mfg.

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Re: Recent acquisitions & restoration projects.....

Postby J. S. Bach » Fri Feb 06, 2015 7:24 pm

LS1Heli wrote:I got a PRR 50' auto carrier unknown mfg.

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I want to say Walthers but I am not one hundred percent sure. I, or a friend, had one like it and that brand always popped into mind; either because the person that originally owned it stated that it was or someone else did. Please post a picture of the underside.

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Re: Recent acquisitions & restoration projects.....

Postby Dennis Holler » Fri Feb 06, 2015 8:27 pm

Def could be Walthers. Are the ends diecast? any shots of the bottom? I just saw a couple of those go by on ebay...Di you out bid me? :mrgreen:
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Re: Recent acquisitions & restoration projects.....

Postby sarge » Sat Feb 07, 2015 7:51 am

Not assuming the car is kitbuilt, since we haven't heard what the material is.

If it's brass, then I'd guess (need some more views and better clarity to be sure) Max Gray what with the dummy couplers and fixed couple pocket ends.

MG did several runs of X31 and X32, followed by US Hobbies and lastly NJCB, all repeats by KTM in Japan and improved in detail level each time. It was a staple.

Meanwhile, the PA looks kinda familiar. Where did you get it and was it in that form?

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Re: Recent acquisitions & restoration projects.....

Postby LS1Heli » Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:54 pm

Gents, thanks for the responses. I think it could be a mix of parts. Here is what I got:

The body and the frame is ALL wood construction.

The doors are like a tin material? See inside shot.

The ends appear to be tin or metal as well.

Trucks look to be Atheran or All Nations?

Possibly started out as Walthers from the 1930's or 40's??? :? :?

It was a kit and was completed in March of 1963.

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Dennis, maybe I did out bid you.... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Re: Recent acquisitions & restoration projects.....

Postby Dennis Holler » Sat Feb 07, 2015 8:24 pm

Darn!! That's a nice car. Yeah, I fell asleep at the helm on that one. Think I watched it the whole time after I bit low and early. Then I forgot to protect it :lol:
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Re: Recent acquisitions & restoration projects.....

Postby sarge » Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:21 pm

I'm in line with that, then, now that I know the material and construction. It's very well done, too.

Here is a similar one that lives here, a Walthers:

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Any info on the PA? I'm suspicious that I've met that particular one before, but would like to hear more about what you might know as to its history before I say anything.
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