Hobo Jungle

[AG]

Wayne and Jon thanks for the info....now you guys make me thirsty.
Fire rock is waiting for me into my refrigerator (still alive and I don't want to kill....maybe Daisy live beer to room temp.)
any way I got to go for One......
Andre.

[hev52]

Aw yes Bro............The San Quentin days. Never forgit that...........................


That's right Dirt. A load on fer sure................... That's why you split town didn't ya. You were afraid you wern't gonna make it back to Orangeville and would have to pay the price with the warden huh..................



Here's a little something to dwell on..............................

http://thefiftiesandsixties.com/CarsWeDrove.htm




hev

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Works for me.

[webenda]

Here's a little something to dwell on..............................

Remember when you could set the dwell by adjusting the points? Those were good times.

Regarding the fifties, sixties...

Wow! The old cars were works of art. And this one... ...is making me drool on the keyboard. I love Ford flatheads.

Back to reality, I drove those cars. Why was I not impressed with them at the time? The continental kits were in the way to get gas ($0.39/gal) into the gas tanks. The rear bumper would drag the ground when transitioning from the street to the garage. The fender skirts had to be removed to change a tire. I had a flathead V8 (with stock heads) in a 3/4 ton pick-up. Even with a humongous radiator and two water pumps it would boil under sustained load (like driving the grade between San Fernando and Bakersfield. (Maybe finned heads would have helped.) There was no vacuum booster pump (associated with the fuel pump) so the wiper (yeah, it only had one) would stop when charging up the grade in the rain. Oh... the gas tank was inside the cab, so if the hose between the filler cap and the tank leaked, you had raw fuel in the cab with you. I once had a nightmare about that. In the dream I was filling the tank, and filling the tank, and filling the tank. Wait, it should be full by now. I open the door and gasoline runs out like beer in a current anti-beer commercial.

They sure are pretty to look at, but I don't really want one.

[rogruth]

Wayne,

I agree that those old cars were works of art.At least what you could see.

Remember change oil at 1000 miles,change points,plugs and condenser at 5000.15 miles to a gallon was pretty darn good.30,000 on a set of tires was normal.Etc,etc.

I do not think that older cars were better except in style.You could tell at a glance who made a vehicle.Today they all look the same.

[webenda]

Roger,

That was not all the car's fault.

Remember change oil at 1000 miles
With today's long lasting additives in oil, you could easily extend that to 5,000 miles.

,change points
As soon as power transistors were invented, I built a transistor switch for the ignition. The points, having to switch only 0.5 Amp instead of 5 to 8 Amps, lasted... I don't know--mine never wore out.

,plugs
With today's lead free gasoline, plugs might last 100,000 miles.

and condenser at 5000.
The condensers never wore out, the garage just changed them to increase cash flow.

15 miles to a gallon was pretty darn good.
Transistor ignition raises that to 15.5 mpg.

30,000 on a set of tires was normal.
That was those skinny old cotton, rayon and then nylon cord tires. Tire technology has come a long way. Today's tires on a 1950 auto should yield 50,000 miles. Radial tires (along with transistor ignition) should raise that gas milage to 16 mpg.

Etc,
Brake job every 30,000 miles.

etc.
Engine worn out at 60,000 to 100,000 miles.

And you should replace the fuel pump every 50,000 miles because they had a mean time between failure of 60,000 miles.

[AG]

We don't need
WIkipedia anymore....We have our Waynepedia!!!
Andre.

[2railjon]

We have our Waynepedia!!!

LOL, Andre!!!! Indeed we do!!!!!!!





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[AG]

Daisy
what about your refrigerator?? still alive or is dying?
Wayne:
I never kill a refrigerator, but after learn the theory thus is the best way to kill one as natural death....(.If somebody intercept this conversation we are talking about a "refrigerator" clear...)
A.

[Chief]

Wayne I have a 37 Ford pickup with the 85 horse flathead nice little truck to drive but not everyday. chief

[rogruth]

Wayne,

I agree with what you said above about cars, BUT we didn't have those things.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

I remember cars from the 40's & 50's, like Hornet, Wasp, Henry J, even Mercury, that when you increased pressure on the gas peddle to go up a hill, the windshield wiper(s) slowed down, considerably - not so cool nor fond a memory, esp. when the snow was wet and flying hard. I remember cars from the 50's that had no air conditioning (except for Cadillac) which made most cars quite uncomfortable esp, when it rained in the summertime. I remember a Falcon my mother had in the 60's which had a simple heater door at foot level that you had to bedn down and manually open/close; it felt like a guy was hired to hide in there and blow on your feet; the back seat passengers were cold.

Yet, I remember the 1962 Lincoln Continental 4-door convertible - the ultimate in class and refinement, restrained elegance - made to Rolls Royce standards, I have heard - nearly handmade. Magnificent. (The HBo series, "Entourage" opens w/ an all-black one tooling down a boulevard.)

The Deusenberg (sp?) which gave rise to the expression, "That's a doozie!", the Bugatti Royale, Packard, all from the 20's, magnificent lines and power. Some cars were breathtaking; some were nerds. I used to wonder why the car companies didn't make some new cars look like models from the 20's, but then Plymouth's effort w/ the "Prowler" gave me pause to reflect on that score further.

Jay Leno has the right idea. If I were rich, I'd buy a whole stable full, just to touch them every day.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

I remember cars from the 40's & 50's, like Hornet, Wasp, Henry J, even Mercury, that when you increased pressure on the gas peddle to go up a hill, the windshield wiper(s) slowed down, considerably - not so cool nor fond a memory, esp. when the snow was wet and flying hard. I remember cars from the 50's that had no air conditioning (except for Cadillac) which made most cars quite uncomfortable esp, when it rained in the summertime. I remember a Falcon my mother had in the 60's which had a simple heater door at foot level that you had to bend down and manually open/close; it felt like a guy was hired to hide in there and blow on your feet; the back seat passengers were cold.

Yet, I remember the 1962 Lincoln Continental 4-door convertible - the ultimate in class and refinement, restrained elegance - made to Rolls Royce standards, I have heard - nearly handmade. Magnificent. (The HBo series, "Entourage" opens w/ an all-black one tooling down a boulevard.)

The Deusenberg (sp?) which gave rise to the expression, "That's a doozie!", the Bugatti Royale, Packard, all from the 20's, magnificent lines and power. Some cars were breathtaking; some were nerds. I used to wonder why the car companies didn't make some new cars look like models from the 20's, but then Plymouth's effort w/ the "Prowler" gave me pause to reflect on that score further.

Jay Leno has the right idea. If I were rich, I'd buy a whole stable full, just to touch them every day.

[Del Mar]

Murph,

Sigh.



San

[webenda]

San,

Sigh, sigh.

Want a restoration project?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Studebak ... 06.c0.m245

Would you believe that the 1936 Dictator Coupe was Studebaker's least expensive offering for 1936? What a beauty.

$665 Dictator Business Coupe
217.8 cu. in. L-head (aka flat head) inline six with single barrel Stromberg
90 hp at 3,400 rpm
0-60 mph in 17 seconds
Top speed 80 mph direct drive (87 mph with o.d.)
Fuel consumption: 24 mpq w/ o.d.